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Old 11th Aug 2013, 12:53
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EASA PPL exam papers.

Has anybody received the EASA PPL theoretical knowledge exam paper set yet?
New communications papers came a while ago, but no sign of any others!

Are the CAA delaying?
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Got mine. Now need to track down some out of date maps as be tight buggers don't provide them with the papers.
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Bose-X,

I presume they refer to UK 1/2 Mil - what area(s) and edition do you need?

I may be able to help.

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I heard there were no questions that require a map!
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Thanks 2Close, I believe its a southern 1/2 mil either ed 38 or 39. I need to check when I get home.

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On the email sent from the CAA on the 25th February which was terms and conditions for CEPs.

The terms and conditions stated :

I also acknowledge that :

Charts for use of student examinations are not now included as part of the material supplied by the CAA......Chart (South West of England Wales, Edition 39) will need to be supplied or sourced and laminated for multi-use by the CEP>
Not like you miss something like that Bose-X
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Erm, I didn't miss it, thats why I need to track down the charts...
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bose-x.

Check PM's
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EASA PPL exam papers.

We received the RT papers months ago, but no others!
Now we have a letter from the CAA to say the papers have changed to a version 2, but still only had the RT papers sent through.

Should we be concerned?
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Yes, you should be.

I assume you're also an RT Examiner which is probably why the RT papers arrived. Suggest you drop the CAA an e-mail and check you are listed as a CEP.

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Flight planning and ops req. Edn 39, but not the Nav. paper.
Been told that new papers coming out, probably won't meet the 1st Sept deadline, anyone know whats going on?
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EASA PPL exam papers.

Thanks ifitaint...

A phone call to Gatwick and now waiting for the lass that's dealing with it to come back off holiday!
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Interesting.
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Mr Elgy talks about Standardisation and its importance; each State has a different set of exams with different numbers of questions; the syllabus is largely unquantified and unqualified so where is the Standardisation? The learning objectives seem a little elusive, I can't find them in the AMC!
All this extra ground-school won't increase costs, how does that work?

For someone who wants to see people getting on with their aviation career he is setting about putting an awful lot out of business!

If this guy is in charge it explains a lot!
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I think the title should say "Evolution", but i think Revolution might be the outcome!
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I heard that the new papers "are riddled with errors" so the deadline has been put back? Gives me another few days to pass the old papers before they get shredded...
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The bit I like is it will not increase the costs to the student.

How's that going to work then? Am I expected to do it for free?
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The problem is we are not always dealing with highly motivated students.
Some want careers, others its a past time, a hobby that stretches over 2-3 years, fitted in with work, family and holidays. I have one student that has dipped in and out over 10 years! Every 3 years he has had a go at some exams only for them to expire.
How many students drop out of flying having done one or two exams, that now see the exams as a chore, which is a shame.
Remember when the Air Law study book was about 20 pages long from the HMSO and cost 5/-. I passed that exam in 1978 and that was bad enough.
More stuff to learn doesn't make safer pilots, otherwise the medical profession wouldn't have specialists.
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The original JAA concept envisaged a FAA style system, 120 questions or thereabout with one or two papers. EASA has copied that and the syllabus, which is by and large the AOPA syllabus borrowed from the RAF in the 1950s. If EASA had had any gumption they would have commissioned a set of practical questions that would have standardised the whole process, preventing individual NAAs from doing there own disjointed thing. There is a good case for Industry to produce such a question bank, administered on line, and to present it to EASA as an NPA! The CAAs job is now to administer the regulation they no longer have the ability to produce any sensible material and realistically, its not their job to do so. Its time for industry to take the initiative.
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"The need for Standardization" is nowadays an often abused argument to get your way as a individual Civil Aviation Authority.

This is how nonsense like ATO's and 100-hrs of structured learning creep into regulations effectively decimating the number of interested amateurs who would like to pursue aviation as a hobby and - once into a more advanced stage - as a means of private transport.

This is where closet communists from Brussels and Cologne (who hate private aviation out of envy or whatever reason - some even think they can save CO2 emmissions by killing private GA) and the "advising" flight school / examiners brigade have found a common goal : lets drive up costs and hurdles for the individuals and eliminate competition in the training industry.

A few have toyed with the idea of an "industry wide" relevant (that means tuned down) test bank per subject and making it publicly available (or at least making sufficient sample test questions available to allow candidates to see what is typically expected of them). But then you realise that in order to achieve this, you have to spend an enormous amount of your time with closet communists that don't really care and face opposition from the training industry that wants to monetize its grip on technical knowledge databases.

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