EASA PPL exam papers.
The "Q" factor of many of the current questions is below 20% or put simply there is an 80% chance they fail to measure anything essential, desirable or relevant! They are just another hurdle.
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EASA PPL exam papers.
If a uk citizen wishes to bimble around the countryside from field to field for a cup o' tea and a bacon sandwich they have to pass exams akin to some of the stuff I did with commercial exams at Gatwick! Even for the LAPL!
I have to admit that after looking at the papers my face is left 'intentionally blank'!
I have to admit that after looking at the papers my face is left 'intentionally blank'!
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If a uk citizen wishes to bimble around the countryside from field to field for a cup o' tea and a bacon sandwich they have to pass exams akin to some of the stuff I did with commercial exams at Gatwick! Even for the LAPL!
But wait....they don't have EASA there do they?
Lunatics running asylums come to mind.
When the Head of Licencing and Training Standards makes a video where he opens his mouth and puts both feet into it, what more can you expect!
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All of the above, and more. Just heard from a colleague that the Nav exam is ridiculous. I will have a close look on Sunday (as FE/GR, not CEP), but are there any comments on the other exams and is it a rumour that the CAA are already rewriting these papers? PS, I may recognise the odd question if they are pitched at PPL-ATPL, re some time teaching ground subjects at ATPL level!
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I have seen one set of papers where the number of questions has been reduced, the questions are mostly the same, but where there are new questions they are largely irrelevant. An overall drop in quality!
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I've been doing a lot of ground school recently to help to prepare my chaps for their exams. I'm getting a bit tired of them asking me why we need to keep on converting distances to kilometers. Seeing as we work in nautical miles I don't have a good answer. Today's surprise was discovering questions based on Jeppesen airport charts. Not really a problem, although it took a while for my eyes to adjust to the format as I get my chaps to use the info from the IAIP, for free, online.
Having said the above, I don't think that the new exams are going to be a problem. However I fail to see the reasoning behind the six sittings rule. With the proper preparation it shouldn't be a problem to comply, but it would be nice to know the reasoning.
Having said the above, I don't think that the new exams are going to be a problem. However I fail to see the reasoning behind the six sittings rule. With the proper preparation it shouldn't be a problem to comply, but it would be nice to know the reasoning.
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Absolutely furious today, sat (and failed) the new Nav exam.
Precisely why do I need to know how to get UTC from a local time in New Dehli FFS ! (local time in Dehli 15:00, correct answer 10:00, which it won't be, given the Indian habit of a 30 min offset)
My ground school instructor was pretty open that the Ground school work didn't prepare me for 20% of the questions (and he's not allowed to alter it)
Which leaves me a maximum of 80% possible and as a normal bloggs I bloopered a few and failed.
I intend having a word with the head of training about why the ground school didn't prep me for the new exam.
What a load of e**ing B***cks . . . .
ATPL/CPL level stuff so that I can get permission to fire up the engine in my glider . . . . .
Who, seriously, can I have a go at about this?
Proper, formal, complaint time.
Precisely why do I need to know how to get UTC from a local time in New Dehli FFS ! (local time in Dehli 15:00, correct answer 10:00, which it won't be, given the Indian habit of a 30 min offset)
My ground school instructor was pretty open that the Ground school work didn't prepare me for 20% of the questions (and he's not allowed to alter it)
Which leaves me a maximum of 80% possible and as a normal bloggs I bloopered a few and failed.
I intend having a word with the head of training about why the ground school didn't prep me for the new exam.
What a load of e**ing B***cks . . . .
ATPL/CPL level stuff so that I can get permission to fire up the engine in my glider . . . . .
Who, seriously, can I have a go at about this?
Proper, formal, complaint time.
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So, this is what happens now.
Rather than learning practical knowledge that is sufficient to operate light GA aircraft, students will be taught to just pass the exam.
Rubbish about time zones, various scales to keep the Eurometrics happy and asking Brits when will they see the Sun!. ( I think the Sun set at 17:30 this evening it seemed so dark).
Rather than learning practical knowledge that is sufficient to operate light GA aircraft, students will be taught to just pass the exam.
Rubbish about time zones, various scales to keep the Eurometrics happy and asking Brits when will they see the Sun!. ( I think the Sun set at 17:30 this evening it seemed so dark).
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I'm sure we are not alone, well I presume the exams for France, Spain, Germany and all the other members of EASA will be the same. With the single European sky and all that standardisation!
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Personally the Air Law and Operational Procedures exams are an improvement.
The Ops procedure exam is more relevant and covers what I think is practical stuff.
at least they have moved away from asking questions about things hanging from masts.
Nav is a disappointment but in EASA places where UTC is some time away from local time I can see the relevance.
If schools have not modified their ground school then they should not be letting students sit the exams until they have done so. Sending someone into an exam with only 80% of the knowledge is neither smart nor fair.
The challenge is about getting the study organised into chunks so small groups of exams are organised into sittings. Maybe trying to get them done in 4 sittings and having a couple of sittings spare just in case.
The Ops procedure exam is more relevant and covers what I think is practical stuff.
at least they have moved away from asking questions about things hanging from masts.
Nav is a disappointment but in EASA places where UTC is some time away from local time I can see the relevance.
If schools have not modified their ground school then they should not be letting students sit the exams until they have done so. Sending someone into an exam with only 80% of the knowledge is neither smart nor fair.
The challenge is about getting the study organised into chunks so small groups of exams are organised into sittings. Maybe trying to get them done in 4 sittings and having a couple of sittings spare just in case.
The shortcomings of the Nav Exam have now been NB'd by the CAA.
Hopefully the PPL Nav syllabus will be one of the first to be shaken up in the forthcoming CAA review of PPL training.
Hopefully the PPL Nav syllabus will be one of the first to be shaken up in the forthcoming CAA review of PPL training.
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Anyone got an idea why the 6 sitting rule has been introduced for PRIVATE Pilot Licence students - that is - people learning to fly for recreational purposes! Explaining that they will now have to study and sit several subjects in one go can only discourage students from learning to fly and what improvement in safety does such an arbitary constraint actually deliver?
I'd love to know which flying schools were consulted before such an idiotic decision was made.
Second - anyone heard when the promised road shows on EASA transition scheduled for October / November are taking place?
I'd love to know which flying schools were consulted before such an idiotic decision was made.
Second - anyone heard when the promised road shows on EASA transition scheduled for October / November are taking place?
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Anyone got an idea why the 6 sitting rule has been introduced for PRIVATE Pilot Licence students?
In some countries, including Germany where EASA sits, this is the way it has been done for ages, and PPL exams are all administered by the authority; if they take place at a school an examiner turns up and invigilates them there; and are all bulked up in one or two days. Ground school tends to be formal and on evenings, with formal attendance tracking.
The idea that you could do it otherwise just does not fit their model how "things should work".
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Proposals for new PPL training syllabus being developed
I see on the CAA website (http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=14&pagetype=65&appid=7&newstype=n&mod e=detail&nid=2283 ) that the CAA are wanting to play around with the PPL syllabus (theoretical), are they saying that Europe or ICAO have it wrong?
Have they taken into account such a change may mean that the UK ends up with a non-ICAO compliant licence as far as the rest of the world is concerned, and UK training organisations cannot sell their courses outside the UK. Whilst Europe can be a pain it has started to open the training market in this area.
So now we have cheap courses run in eastern Europe, and now the CAA wants to change the rules again (how much is the consultant getting for paid to take more work away from UK training organisations), we may as well close down.
Have they taken into account such a change may mean that the UK ends up with a non-ICAO compliant licence as far as the rest of the world is concerned, and UK training organisations cannot sell their courses outside the UK. Whilst Europe can be a pain it has started to open the training market in this area.
So now we have cheap courses run in eastern Europe, and now the CAA wants to change the rules again (how much is the consultant getting for paid to take more work away from UK training organisations), we may as well close down.
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