Conversion ICAO SE IR > EASA ME IR
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Conversion ICAO SE IR > EASA ME IR
Hello all,
Anybody having problems with students converting from an ICAO SE IR > EASA ME IR.
The UK (and as far as I am aware only the UK) don't seem to accept this anymore.
Although my interpretation of Article 8 doesn't seem to prohibit it as long as we submit the training plan to the CAA for approval or comply with their AMC in :
Section 4 Part Q, Subpart 2 Page 1 of CAP804 paragraph 1.1.1
Or does the wording of article 8
really specify to just SEIR or MEIR.
I know several schools are continuing with the SEIR > MEIR training courses in the UK and Iceland but the CAA seems to have refused issue of quite a few recently.
Thoughts please...
Anybody having problems with students converting from an ICAO SE IR > EASA ME IR.
The UK (and as far as I am aware only the UK) don't seem to accept this anymore.
Although my interpretation of Article 8 doesn't seem to prohibit it as long as we submit the training plan to the CAA for approval or comply with their AMC in :
Section 4 Part Q, Subpart 2 Page 1 of CAP804 paragraph 1.1.1
Or does the wording of article 8
equivalent licence, rating or certificate issued in accordance with Annex 1
I know several schools are continuing with the SEIR > MEIR training courses in the UK and Iceland but the CAA seems to have refused issue of quite a few recently.
Thoughts please...
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Convert ICAO SEIR to Part-FCL SEIR using the 15 hour route (not requiring CAA approval) or the reduced training requirements (requiring CAA approval).
Thereafter, upgrade Part-FCL SEIR to Part-FCL MEIR (5 hours ME IR training required, although unlikely to be ready in 5 hours unless current on MEP).
However, if no MEP CR held, the mandatory 6 hour VFR MEP CR training would also be required before the MEIR training was commenced.
I can't see how they could refuse this route which would surely comply with Part-FCL.
Technically, unless I have missed something, anyone could (however unlikely) get a Part-FCL ME IR this way - SE IR, MEP CR training, ME IR 'upgrade'. 11 hours MEP training on the aircraft instead of 15 by going down the direct ME IR route.
Thereafter, upgrade Part-FCL SEIR to Part-FCL MEIR (5 hours ME IR training required, although unlikely to be ready in 5 hours unless current on MEP).
However, if no MEP CR held, the mandatory 6 hour VFR MEP CR training would also be required before the MEIR training was commenced.
I can't see how they could refuse this route which would surely comply with Part-FCL.
Technically, unless I have missed something, anyone could (however unlikely) get a Part-FCL ME IR this way - SE IR, MEP CR training, ME IR 'upgrade'. 11 hours MEP training on the aircraft instead of 15 by going down the direct ME IR route.
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Under JAR - people didn't need to jump through the SEIR hoop then "upgrade"
They just went direct from ICAO SE IR > EASA ME IR
I just don't see why the AMC couldn't have included an option to include this.
They just went direct from ICAO SE IR > EASA ME IR
I just don't see why the AMC couldn't have included an option to include this.
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Indeed I've been wraping my brain around this issue recently.
I hold FAA SEP IR and EASA MEP CPL. I do need to convert my FAA to EASA MEP IR. So isn't that allowed anymore under new EASA rules??
Someone told me recently that I would need to get FAA MEP first and then convert 'normally' to EASA MEP IR.
Any input would be highly appreciated as this is getting very confusing!
I hold FAA SEP IR and EASA MEP CPL. I do need to convert my FAA to EASA MEP IR. So isn't that allowed anymore under new EASA rules??
Someone told me recently that I would need to get FAA MEP first and then convert 'normally' to EASA MEP IR.
Any input would be highly appreciated as this is getting very confusing!
