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Part FCL 1030

Old 15th May 2013, 22:47
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Part FCL 1030 - Prerequisites for conducting tests

Can any other examiners tell me what their interpretations of and how they are implementing Part FCL 1030.

(a) When conducting skill tests, proficiency checks and assessments of competence, examiners shall:
(2) verify that the applicant complies with all the qualification, training and experience requirements in this Part for the issue, revalidation or renewal of the licence, rating or certificate for which the skill test, proficiency check or assessment of competence is taken;
What the regulation states is that the applicant must meet all the licence issue requirements at the time of test.
Gone are the PPL skills tests at 35 hours total time, the CPL test at 175 hours etc..

Hence why we are required to sign the declaration on the relevant PPL/CPL application form which basically confirms FCL 1030 a) 2)

In my experience the application appears to be inconsistent between examiners and some aren't even aware of this regulation. Meaning there's an uneven playing field amongst examiners.

The UK CAA has also stated that we must comply with this and should not conduct the test unless they meet all the licence issue requirements - and has since reversed course.

Has anyone done he other NAA's briefings such as the Danish/Italian etc and seen how they are handling this?

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Old 17th May 2013, 07:27
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The lack of response must say something!
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I have done briefings from Spain, Portugal, Italy, Hungary and France so far and its not been mentioned in any of the briefings.

It's not something I have cow across to be honest as I can't recall doing skill tests in less time than that required for licence issue. I think its probably quite rare?
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The lack of response must say something!
I figured as much - I don't think many of us are aware.

I can't recall doing skill tests in less time than that required for licence issue.
Not at CPL level - pretty regular to see chaps start the CPL at 150 hours do the CPL and be around 175-180 Total time and ready for test.

However under FCL.1030 they are ineligible for test as they must have the

experience requirements in this Part for the issue
which means 200 hours total time and the 100 PIC etc.

I have previously done a PPL test on someone with less than 40 hours total time - had the 25 dual and 10 solo requirements met, although they are rare - and now according to Part FCL this can't happen.

I have done briefings from Spain, Portugal, Italy, Hungary and France so far and its not been mentioned in any of the briefings.
I wonder that since it's in the basic FCL regulation they're not mentioning it.

The statement on all the UK License/rating application forms does state for PPL SRG 1105 Section 9 :
in accordance with FCL.1030 I have examined the applicants flying log and application form and can confirm that meet in full the requirements for the grant of Licence in accordance with Part-FCL.
and SRG 1183 Section 13:
I further certify that I have examined the applicants flying log and the entries in them meet in full the flying experience requirements for the grant of a licence in accordance with Part-FCL
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It is something our ATO has done as policy pre-EASA as far as I can recall.
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Another area that it will affect is the FI reval/renewal. with a limited number of seminars, FIs have often taken the test prior to the seminar; now it appears they must have the experience or have completed the seminar prior to an AoC. So much for encouraging people to do things in a timely and efficient manner.
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Appendix 3 Section E Part 13 also says :

SKILL TEST
13. Upon completion of the flying training and relevant experience requirements the applicant shall take the CPL(A) skill test on either a single-engine or a multi-engine aeroplane.
There's nothing specific in CAP 804 so that means that the CPL testing can't take place without all the requirements for licences issue being met then.
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