Renew my BCPL

[Mickey Kaye]

The five year validly on my BCPL is due to expire this year and I would like to renew it.

According to CAP 804 for the purposes of the ANO a BCPL (with UK CPL exam passes) is now regarded as a UK CPL. Does that mean that I now have inbuilt IMC privileges?

To renew it do I fill in form SRG1102 and will I get issued a UK CPL in return?

I have emailed the CAA and go no reply. I have tried to phone and may do so again in the future but I gave up after a 20 minutes of holding.

[S-Works]

If you have the exam passes then if my reading of the conversion matrix is correct you will get an EASA CPL. If you have proof of the IMCr training then it will get entered on the licence as an IR(R). An EASA CPL does not have embedded IMCr privilege.

If you only apply for a UK CPL then you are going to be restricted to non EASA types.

[Whopity]

According to the ANO there is no such thing as a BCPL therefore; you do not have a valid licence! A bit of a shock I know, but as CAP 804 is not a legal document, I fail to see how the statement in it can validate a licence that no longer exists in law.

I believe that you should or rather must apply for a valid licence and you have two choices, either use SRG1102 to apply for a UK CPL which will contain the privileges published in the ANO Schedule 7 these include the privileges of a PPL with an IMC rating. Additionally it does not contain the limitations that the IMC rating is designed to remove. The statement in CAP 804 clearly gives you a right to move directly to this licence.

You can also apply for an EASA licence subject to meeting the conversion criteria, using SRG1104 which includes the option to retain a UK National (lifetime) licence which I think represents a more economical solution.

If you use the 1102, you know you are going to have to pay again to go down the EASA route in 2 years time!

Remember, the CAA letter of 2010 stated that its the pilot's responsibility to ensure that you are in compliance with the law, at the same time they absolved themselves of any further responsibility to notify you of any changes that might affect your legal rights!

[loosedoc]

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cap 804 is often at variance with the applications forms- e.g applicants for an IMC issue on CAp 804 have to show 25 hours in log book post licence ISSUE. the form does not show the word Issue.

i would send the form in,pay the money, and if a CPL does not arrive,ask for your money back. if they dont pay- go to the small claims court.

the other advantage of course, which you will know, of the cpl is the exemption from some of the public transport take off minima.

i will have to do something with my UK CPL- i gather that i have to have an EASA licence before I can revalidate my FE rating.

other posters may have some concrete information on that if they have been the first ones to have gone down the re validation route
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[S-Works]

i will have to do something with my UK CPL- i gather that i have to have an EASA licence before I can revalidate my FE rating.

Yep. The hurdle I have hit recently. Renewed FE and have to have a UK Part FCL before they will send out the FE. Not sure how that effects, CRE and TRE which were renewed in the summer.

I have been promised new licence and Examiner paperwork ready next week...

[Whopity]

i gather that i have to have an EASA licence before I can revalidate my FE rating.

Quite correct however; there are a number of BCPL holders who followed the CAA advice and obtained a JAA licence prior to September 2012 and then when they tried to renew a FE Certificate, they were told that the application could not be processed unless they had an EASA licence and were then told they must pay again for a second licence conversion! If a professional person gave such bad advice you could sue them!