EASA licence and Aeros (again)
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The IAA are not convinced that a UK pilot with a Part-FCL licence may legally fly a UK G-reg Annex II aircraft to Ireland.
can a G reg NON EASA aircraft on a Permit to fly (non C of A )be flown on an EASA licence or is a national licence required??
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Most Part-FCL licences are issued to meet compliance with ICAO standards so are not a problem as this will already be included in the legal framework of most countries worldwide.
Whereas the majority view is that, if there isn't a law to say that you may not do something, then you may do it; the Aircrew Regulation does not state that Part-FCL licences may not be used to fly Annex II aircraft, therefore they may be so used.
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I'm just about to finish a guys aerobatic training for the AOPA basic cert. I read earlier in this post what if he includes a letter from me with his initial licence application (CPL in this case). He can get the rating added. Could someone please advise what should be included in this letter as I've not done this before?
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Download CAP 804: Flight Crew Licensing: Mandatory Requirements, Policy and Guidance | Publications | About the CAA if you haven't already. Have a look at Section 4, part P, pages 32/33 (pages 514/515 of the pdf) and it lists all the ways you can get the rating included on conversion. You don't actually need the AOPA certificate, just 5 hours and a statement by an aeros FI. No guidance about the statement but paraphrasing what is in the CAP should do I imagine.
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Has anyone cut up the licence into parts to fit in the pockets of licence?
I was about to but then seen a notice that you can't ! So now I have a wedge in the front pocket and nothing in the rest. Daft !
I was about to but then seen a notice that you can't ! So now I have a wedge in the front pocket and nothing in the rest. Daft !
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Pipertommy, solution - photocopy it (good quality colour) then cut that up and fit in pockets. Screw up the original into a ball and keep in an old condom in the bottom of your flight bag - all in one piece mind you.
Wait for someone to give a toss, let them get really worked up, then toss the condom over
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Or maybe not........
Wait for someone to give a toss, let them get really worked up, then toss the condom over
.Or maybe not........
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Just had EASA license issued with Aerobatic rating. All the permutations are in CAP 804, download and use your computer to search for the info. I got it on the strength of my BAeA competition results twelve years ago.
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Has anyone cut up the licence into parts to fit in the pockets of licence?
I was about to but then seen a notice that you can't ! So now I have a wedge in the front pocket and nothing in the rest. Daft !
I was about to but then seen a notice that you can't ! So now I have a wedge in the front pocket and nothing in the rest. Daft !
Can you find a legal reference for that?
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EASA licence on NON EASA aircraft
CAP 804 section 1 Part C page 2 pdf page 36 paragraph 1.5 says you can fly a non EASA aircraft with an EASA licence, including home bul.
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AIUI, I cannot train people for the Aerobatics Rating, because I currently only work at an RTF, not an ATO. I can continue to train for the AOPA certificate though, which is one of the ways the rating can be included in an EASA licence upon conversion. There does not seem to be any problem with this, providing the certificate is awarded before they convert to an EASA licence.
My question is, if I train a newly minted EASA PPL for the AOPA certificate, will the CAA give him the rating on the strength of it, or (as I suspect) does this flexibility only apply to conversions from CAA or JAR PPLs?
My question is, if I train a newly minted EASA PPL for the AOPA certificate, will the CAA give him the rating on the strength of it, or (as I suspect) does this flexibility only apply to conversions from CAA or JAR PPLs?
The CAP 804 conversion terms only refer to 'Aerobatic Privileges exercised on a UK National/JAR-FCL licence'. The implication being that, with a Part-FCL licence, you're stuck with Part-FCL Aerobatic Rating requirements - including the ludicrous nonsense of having to become an ATO and for the applicant to have flown 40 hrs PIC since PPL issue before applying for the Aerobatic Rating....
However, the Aerobatic Rating is only mandatory for aerobatics conducted on EASA aeroplanes after Apr 2015. If you were to teach the AOPA course using a Chipmunk or Bulldog, for example, then your newly-minted Part-FCL holder wouldn't need 40 hrs PIC, you wouldn't need to be an ATO and he/she could continue to fly aerobatics on suitable non-EASA aeroplanes using nothing more than a Part-FCL PPL(A). But if he/she then wanted to fly aerobatics on that aeronautical oxymoron, the Cessna 'Aerobat'
, he/she would need an Aerobatic Rating....
That's as I see it - but check with FCLweb before committing yourself.
However, the Aerobatic Rating is only mandatory for aerobatics conducted on EASA aeroplanes after Apr 2015. If you were to teach the AOPA course using a Chipmunk or Bulldog, for example, then your newly-minted Part-FCL holder wouldn't need 40 hrs PIC, you wouldn't need to be an ATO and he/she could continue to fly aerobatics on suitable non-EASA aeroplanes using nothing more than a Part-FCL PPL(A). But if he/she then wanted to fly aerobatics on that aeronautical oxymoron, the Cessna 'Aerobat'
, he/she would need an Aerobatic Rating....That's as I see it - but check with FCLweb before committing yourself.
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