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Old 23rd Jul 2012, 19:42
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Hi Guys , does anyone in here no how a PPL(H) with 100 hrs can do FI rating under the new EASA rules , paid or not , how much cost, hrs etc without a CPL(H) ?? thanks guys
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Old 23rd Jul 2012, 19:55
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You can't; No cost!
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http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP804Cor.pdf

See here for a start, CAP804, part J, subpart 1. Looks like you'll be needing a lot more hours and CPL TK.
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At 100 hrs you are just getting to the stage where (hopefully) you are able to fly on your own with out getting into trouble. The idea that you think you are now able to teach other people how to fly is IMO laughable........
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Hey they let the intergated fixed wing pilost loose after 160 hours and not a single hour of it is proper PIC without supervision. And added to the fact they are only taught airline ops flying a SEP.
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Hey they let the intergated fixed wing pilost loose after 160 hours and not a single hour of it is proper PIC without supervision. And added to the fact they are only taught airline ops flying a SEP.
Well they at least have to pass the CPL written and flight test, and I am guessing most of them make pretty crappy instructors if that is all the experience they bring to the table.

Sorry to be rude but anybody with a PPL and 100 hrs who think they are ready to just sign up for the instructor course and then go out and teach somebody to fly are very likely to have an over inflated idea of their own skill levels......
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Well they don't actually. They get the ATPL theory which is mainly jet stuff.

And the CPL is a progress check with an in house checker. Then they move onto twin IR.

There are a few good ones, but they have most of the time had exposure to aviation before doing the course. And you get the occassional one that gets the fact that the way they they have been taught to fly a single isn't the normal way of doing it, and basically bin what they have been taught and ask loads of questions and learn on the job.
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It has always been a laughable situation that we allow the industries most inexperienced to train the new.
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Amen to that!
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Indeed, one of the few (only?) good things to come out of the EASA, will be the allowing of experienced PPLs to become instructors.
I know it's theoretically possible under JARs, but how many are there? Having to do all the CPL TK and then not get paid seems to not encourage it.
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one of the few (only?) good things to come out of the EASA, will be the allowing of experienced PPLs to become instructors.
No, the good thing is going back to allowing them to be paid. There is absolutely no difference to the experience requirements which have been in place for the last 12 years and that's little different from what has been in place for the past 20 years. There has been a number of PPL FIs trained over that period.
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