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Old 5th Jul 2012, 12:12
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Nick14 – It’s not surprising that you are having trouble getting your head around the EASA regulations structure as they keep changing it! Essentially, however, it is reasonably straightforward.

At the top of the structure is Regulation 218/2008 (the Basic Regulation) which, as you say, has been EU law for about 4 years. The Basic Regulation has 5 annexes:
  • Annex I – Essential requirements for airworthiness referred to in Article 5
  • Annex II – Aircraft referred to in Article 4(4) (i.e. Annex II aircraft)
  • Annex III – Essential requirements for pilot licensing referred to in Article 7
  • Annex IV – Essential requirements for air operations referred to in Article 8
  • Annex V – Criteria for qualified entities referred to in Article 13

Below the Basic Regulation are a number of ‘Enabling Regulations’, each dealing with a different area of EASA’s responsibility. At present, seven of these have been enacted into EU law:
  • Initial Airworthiness (Regulation 1702/2003)
  • Continuing Airworthiness (Regulation 2042/2003)
  • Air Traffic Controller Licensing (Regulation 805/2011)
  • ATM/ANS Oversight (Regulation 1034/2011)
  • ANS Providers (Regulation 1035/2011)
  • AUR and ACAS II (Regulation 1332/2011)
  • Air Crew [sic] (Regulation 1178/2011 amended by Regulation 290/2012)

Each of the enabling regulations also has annexes and the Aircrew Regulation has seven:
  • Annex I – Part-FCL
  • Annex II – Conditions for the conversion of existing national licences
  • Annex III – Conditions for the acceptance of licences issued by or no behalf of third countries
  • Annex IV – Part-MED
  • Annex V – Part-CC (Cabin Crew)
  • Annex VI – Part ARA (Authority Requirements)
  • Annex VII – Part-ORA (Organisation Requirements)

The Aircrew Regulation became EU law on 8 April 2012 but member states were permitted to delay implementation of the Annexes by up to 12 months. The UK initially elected to implement them on 1 July but, having failed to meet its own deadline, delayed implementation until 17 September. Until then, the UK is continuing to comply with JAR-FCL except where the Aircrew Regulation does not permit it (e.g. the arrangements for crediting of ex-military aircrew).

The enabling regulation for Air Operations is currently being considered by the EASA Committee of the European Commission (known as ‘comitology’) and is due to become law towards the end of this year.

So far as examiners authorised by states other than the state of licence issue of the candidate are concerned, they will need to inform the competent authority of the state of licence issue and receive a briefing before conducting any Skill Test, Proficiency Checks or Assessment of Competence. This will not become necessary for UK licensed pilots until 17 September until when the current requirements remain in force.

If you need any further clarification, please feel free to PM me.
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Old 5th Jul 2012, 17:40
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Nick14 - got all that ?
Pretty straight forward eh ..?
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Old 6th Jul 2012, 07:04
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Hmm,

Well that makes more sense now thank you!

The issue we are facing at present is we have a number of pilots operating from different licences. The examiners are all IAA authorised. We have a number of pilots who already have part FCL licences, how do we check them if we don't have the specific authority authorised examiner? There is no procedure to convert an EASA licence into an IAA licence.

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As I said above, the examiner will have to inform the candidate's competent authority of his intention to conduct the test/check/assessment and receive a briefing from them. This assumes, of course, that the candidate's competent authority has implemented the annexes to the Aircrew Regulation.

Note that there is no requirement for the examiner to obtain authorisation from the candidate's competent authority, he must merely inform them of his intention. The competent authority is then required by EU law to provide the necessary briefing.
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and receive a briefing from them
Interesting that they haven't briefed the majority of their own examiners for over 12 years!
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So what was JAR OPS in EASA terms is now EU-OPS?

Where does that fit into the structure?

Many thanks
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Old 6th Jul 2012, 14:50
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So can the CAA refuse if they don't pay the money ?
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Old 6th Jul 2012, 17:03
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What is currently covered by EU-OPS and JAR-OPS 3 will be covered by Annex III (Part-ORO) and Annex IV (Part-CAT) to the Air Operations Regulation.
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Old 6th Jul 2012, 19:07
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Ah right, that makes sense as the document I was reading was annex III.

So EU OPS will cease to exist when those regulations come into force then?
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Old 9th Jul 2012, 13:42
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nezzer

did you get an answer yet? ( the thread seems to have drifted from your original question)
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Old 10th Jul 2012, 14:15
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I applied 3 weeks ago and the Selection team sent me a mail asking me more details about my employment history and that they would give me a result in 10-14 days.
I haven't yet received any other communication, I think that they have received much more applications than they expected.

If I have some news I will let you know
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Old 12th Jul 2012, 20:01
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Hi all,

Had a email today from CTC inviting me to attend a interview on the 27th July and guess what ? They want money for the interview and they will throw in a complimentary free lunch lol What is this industry coming to !!
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any updates on this 'scheme'
Did anyone actually figure out the IR hours being asked for?

Be interested to hear from anyone who was succesful for any feedback.

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Old 20th Oct 2014, 13:29
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I see this scheme has appeared again, or similar.

Any FIs know any more ?
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