Typical PPL student mistakes.
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Not stopping on the runway until advised to roll again, after an aircraft with heavy wake has just departed the runway.
Student usually takes-off straight away without turning a blind eye to the fact that the controller told them to land & stop for the aircrafts wake turbulence.
I am speaking from experience lool, happened to me in my second solo circuit sortie.
Controller had to call my callsign twice before i answered back with an apology...with my tail between my legs.
Student usually takes-off straight away without turning a blind eye to the fact that the controller told them to land & stop for the aircrafts wake turbulence.
I am speaking from experience lool, happened to me in my second solo circuit sortie.
Controller had to call my callsign twice before i answered back with an apology...with my tail between my legs.
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Landing at the very beginning of the runway, allowing no slack for sink, windshear, etc.
Landing off the centreline with no effort made for correction to drift.
Unable to absorb, comprehend and act on ATC instructions which are not common. i.e. "expedite runway clearance due to heavy traffic at 4 miles". (Too maxed out weaving their way down final approach too actually think)
Before anyone gets too defensive about PPL's, which is who I am referring to, I was probably guilty of all the above faults in my early days. Experience and learning count for a great deal in aviation. The odd PPL stops learning when the licence is acquired. Not good.
Landing off the centreline with no effort made for correction to drift.
Unable to absorb, comprehend and act on ATC instructions which are not common. i.e. "expedite runway clearance due to heavy traffic at 4 miles". (Too maxed out weaving their way down final approach too actually think)
Before anyone gets too defensive about PPL's, which is who I am referring to, I was probably guilty of all the above faults in my early days. Experience and learning count for a great deal in aviation. The odd PPL stops learning when the licence is acquired. Not good.
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Explain, please.
Why is it an error to land at the very beginning of the runway ?
That's what we teach our students here - otherwise they are likely to roll off the end into the bushes.
Why is it an error to land at the very beginning of the runway ?
That's what we teach our students here - otherwise they are likely to roll off the end into the bushes.
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1. They keep forgetting to determine abort point/go-around point for take-off/landing. Buggers me a lot.
2. Taxying with 1500 rpm and brakes slightly applied.
2. Taxying with 1500 rpm and brakes slightly applied.
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H'mm don't know how these two will come across.
One fault I have always found is the inability to laugh at themselves.
They get way to stressed and instead of learning fight their way through a lesson, then are surprised when they don't improve.
And the biggest mistake in my opinion which I used to swear/take the piss out off/moan/nag you name it. (Still do it with FO's as well if I catch them).
And it all comes from how the early lessons were taught.
TRIMMING and Attitude flying.
If you can get the foundations of flying battered into them from a very early stage the rest is easy.
With some all I had to do was stop looking out the side window and I would hear "yes yes I know I am a
I think its trimmed now" and when I looked at the student they had a big grin on their faces which only got bigger when I pull the throttle on them for a PFL which had been my intention in the first place.
One fault I have always found is the inability to laugh at themselves.
They get way to stressed and instead of learning fight their way through a lesson, then are surprised when they don't improve.
And the biggest mistake in my opinion which I used to swear/take the piss out off/moan/nag you name it. (Still do it with FO's as well if I catch them).
And it all comes from how the early lessons were taught.
TRIMMING and Attitude flying.
If you can get the foundations of flying battered into them from a very early stage the rest is easy.
With some all I had to do was stop looking out the side window and I would hear "yes yes I know I am a
I think its trimmed now" and when I looked at the student they had a big grin on their faces which only got bigger when I pull the throttle on them for a PFL which had been my intention in the first place.
Dancing with the devil, going with the flow... it's all a game to me.
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Thinking it more important to announce a go-around on the RT before actually initiating it - gets my blood up every time.
Mad_Jock makes a very good comment regarding attitude flying. The earliest lessons are the most important yet time and time again I witness even the most experienced instructors glossing over them.
VFE.
Mad_Jock makes a very good comment regarding attitude flying. The earliest lessons are the most important yet time and time again I witness even the most experienced instructors glossing over them.
VFE.
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Explain, please.
Why is it an error to land at the very beginning of the runway ?
Why is it an error to land at the very beginning of the runway ?
I used to be a flight simulator buff before starting out flying myself, so I figured the touchdown zone markers are there to mark the area for landing.
Two instructors told me to not bother with these as they are (quote) for the jet aircraft only(/quote). I was told that I (quote again)want to hit the runway numbers every time(/quote).
Doing that usually has one coming in lower / slower above any obstacles that may be in front of the runway, and I noticed that rather soon and went back to landing on the 1000 foot marker, despite of what my instructors said.
Never was told once since the PPL days to hit the numbers
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Using trim to adjust attitude.
Staring at the G1000 PFD rather than looking out of the window.
Not waiting for the aircraft to stabilise after changing something.
Trimming (or at least trying to) in the turn.
Waiting to say "downwind" on the radio when BUMPFCHH (or whatever version you use) is far more appropriate.
Shoving the nose down when high on the approach.
Windsock - what windsock?
PS. I suspect I was guilty of all of the above and more when I was learning.
PPS. Landing on the 1000ft marker? That would be beyond the far end of some of the runways I use.
Staring at the G1000 PFD rather than looking out of the window.
Not waiting for the aircraft to stabilise after changing something.
Trimming (or at least trying to) in the turn.
Waiting to say "downwind" on the radio when BUMPFCHH (or whatever version you use) is far more appropriate.
Shoving the nose down when high on the approach.
Windsock - what windsock?
PS. I suspect I was guilty of all of the above and more when I was learning.
PPS. Landing on the 1000ft marker? That would be beyond the far end of some of the runways I use.
