Cirrus SR 20 G3 for ab-initio training.
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How many hours before solo on a Cirrus SR20 G3?
My school started using Cirrus SR 20 G3 around July last year for ab initio training. The first group of students, transitioning from another aircraft (malaysian made Eagle 120b) does not have much problem familiarizing themselves with the new composite bird.
Last week, one of the students from the later batch, who started from zero hours on the cirrus, slammed the aircraft on the runway (on his first solo, after going around about 7 times doing circuit, he's nervous they said) and it seems they have to replace the nosewheel landing gear and having the whole aircraft stripped and checked. The down time is estimated between 7-8 weeks before flying again. The damage is visible, we can actually see the longitudinal axis of the aircraft is no longer the same as other Cirrus.
My question is, do you guys think the school should have alter and change their syllabus to put in more hours before releasing students for first solo.Right now we are following the syllabus of about 14 hrs before going on solo.
I think since cirrus is not beginner friendly aircraft, they should put more effiort concentrating on improving training and adding at least 2 more hours on the circuit training before authorising us for the first solo flight.
Roughly it's like this :
42 hrs for PPL
165 hrs on single engine (including PPL)
35 hrs on the twin
Syllabus for PPL is like
0.5 hrs - Area Familiarization
1.0 hrs - EOC 1
1.0 hrs - EOC 2
1.0 hrs - Straight and Level 1
1.0 hrs - Straight and Level 2
1.0 hrs - Climb and Descend 1
1.0 hrs - Climb and Descend 2
1.0 hrs - Medium Turn
1.0 hrs - Stall 1
1.0 hrs - Stall 2
1.0 hrs - Circuit 1
1.0 hrs - Circuit 2
1.0 hrs - Circuit 3
1.0 hrs - Circuit 4
1.0 hrs - Circuit 5 (solo check)
0.5 hrs - Circuit 6 (solo, should end after 0.3 hrs at most)
In reality each sortie could last less than an hour depending on the instructor. Some had their solo after 12.5 hrs, only a couple of them had theirs after 14 hrs.
Isn't the 14 hrs cut off point seems too fast? Students who are not getting their solo after 14 hrs are subject to standard check by the CFI.
Tell me what you guys think....
Last week, one of the students from the later batch, who started from zero hours on the cirrus, slammed the aircraft on the runway (on his first solo, after going around about 7 times doing circuit, he's nervous they said) and it seems they have to replace the nosewheel landing gear and having the whole aircraft stripped and checked. The down time is estimated between 7-8 weeks before flying again. The damage is visible, we can actually see the longitudinal axis of the aircraft is no longer the same as other Cirrus.
My question is, do you guys think the school should have alter and change their syllabus to put in more hours before releasing students for first solo.Right now we are following the syllabus of about 14 hrs before going on solo.
I think since cirrus is not beginner friendly aircraft, they should put more effiort concentrating on improving training and adding at least 2 more hours on the circuit training before authorising us for the first solo flight.
Roughly it's like this :
42 hrs for PPL
165 hrs on single engine (including PPL)
35 hrs on the twin
Syllabus for PPL is like
0.5 hrs - Area Familiarization
1.0 hrs - EOC 1
1.0 hrs - EOC 2
1.0 hrs - Straight and Level 1
1.0 hrs - Straight and Level 2
1.0 hrs - Climb and Descend 1
1.0 hrs - Climb and Descend 2
1.0 hrs - Medium Turn
1.0 hrs - Stall 1
1.0 hrs - Stall 2
1.0 hrs - Circuit 1
1.0 hrs - Circuit 2
1.0 hrs - Circuit 3
1.0 hrs - Circuit 4
1.0 hrs - Circuit 5 (solo check)
0.5 hrs - Circuit 6 (solo, should end after 0.3 hrs at most)
In reality each sortie could last less than an hour depending on the instructor. Some had their solo after 12.5 hrs, only a couple of them had theirs after 14 hrs.
Isn't the 14 hrs cut off point seems too fast? Students who are not getting their solo after 14 hrs are subject to standard check by the CFI.
Tell me what you guys think....
Last edited by ssangyongs; 25th Jan 2009 at 02:23.
