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Old 21st Nov 2008, 13:14
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Canadair

Welcome, thats excellent - best advise is what vortex said in his very first post (before the mud started flying!) DON'T be afraid of asking other instructors, I "dabble" part time in the art of instructing and although I fly jets I am always asking our CFI and experienced instructors questions, as the CFI at our school says

"no such thing as stupid questions only stupid anwers"

and when you get a really good student DON'T relax, because as soon as you do he/she is more likely to kill you than the hopeless ones!


VFE,

Sorry dude got to disagree - the worst instructors I had during my PPL were all full time guy's, problem I found was:

1. ALWAYS - moaning about the money - I'm the customer and paying bucket loads of the stuff it's not my fault you get paid what you do!

2. If they had been there more than 6 months they had lost interest, they wanted to be in the airlines and I was just a stepping stone to the dream!

The vast majority of part time guys I know do it for the Love not the money (obvioulsy!), and as such dont normally get "bitter and twisted" or "burnt out" and because its a love/hobby they also tend to spend more time reading about the subject rather than just pick up the latest talk in the school, which is what most fulltime guys do (not there fault) as they have to be flying or they really are broke!!

take it easy

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Old 22nd Nov 2008, 01:14
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"no such thing as stupid questions only stupid answers"
Baron, I've always heard "There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."

and when you get a really good student DON'T relax, because as soon as you do he/she is more likely to kill you than the hopeless ones!
Canadair, that's good advice from the Baron. You're on your toes about everything with your pre-solo and pre-PPL students. With the CPL's and IR students, I used to concentrate on the lesson specifics, too much. Be sure to keep up your guard and help them become better with all aspects of their flying.
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Old 24th Nov 2008, 21:25
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my 02 cents

All of the core stick and rudder flying skills your student will ever use, you will teach in the first couple of hours or so of the ab initio course. It is absolutely vital that the student understand what he/she is seeing when they look out the windshield and can manipulate the controls to make the aircraft do what they want at any given time. I have seen some new instructors rush to get to the circuit and then have the student get bogged down because they lack the foundation skills. A bit of extra time at the front end will pay big dividends later.

The example you set from day one will have a profound influence on the student. Demonstrating good airmanship and pilot decision making should be part of everything you do and your example, good or bad will be what the student will try to emulate.
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Old 9th Dec 2008, 13:27
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Every student will try to kill you....they will do so when you least expect it...they will be innovative in the ways they go about it.....don't ever let your guard down because that is exactly when they will become homocidal.

Don't be paranoid about it.....they really aren't out to get you...but given an opportunity....they will get you.
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Old 9th Dec 2008, 17:01
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The original poster was asking about ab intio instruction. In my case all the students who tried to kill me were the ones doing Multi and Multi IFR courses.
I never had a PPL student ever do anything that had me fearing for my safety. The training I recieved on my CPL and Instructor courses prepared me
to recognize and arrest situations which had the potential to create an unsafe situation. If a student did put you in a dangerous situation than you were not IMHO paying adequate attention to your duties as an instructor
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Old 9th Dec 2008, 19:52
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and I'd like to add:

I can tell you when I have very good students, it is very boring above all during long navigation...
the fun and reaward parts of the instruction is to see a student making progress.
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Old 9th Dec 2008, 22:48
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I have never done PPL instruction....thus I would not be knowing about that kind of stuff.

As to being negligent in my duty....I believe you might read the post....it suggests constant awareness is the path to salvation.

Is that not exactly what you just said in your less than polite manner?

I am quite sure there are PPL students that have managed even unknowingly to surprise their instructor by doing something far different that expected....as they are very human I believe.
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 14:01
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Sorry; my comment was not directed specifically at you rather it was meant as a general comment. I had also hoped it provided some comfort to new instructors as I do not believe they should be fearing for their life every time they go flying. I firmly believe that a normal and appropriate (to the manoever/phase of flight) level of attention will allow the instructor to recognize developing unsafe situations and deal with them.
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 18:37
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Adjust to the student is a good piece of advice already mentioned. At times its an acting job. You may want to appear reasonably relaxed to give the student some confidence. At the same time you want to be watching things quite carefully out of the corner of your eye !
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