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Old 2nd Sep 2008, 11:14
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Flight Instructor Jobs in the US?

How does the market for Flight Instructors look in the US ? Is it difficult to find FI jobs?
Is it more likely that a school hires a student as a flight instructor?
Because the school i want to attend does not seem to hire FIs at the moment! Does that mean i'm doomed?

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If you had both a JAA instructor rating and a VISA then America would bite your arm off just now.

Canada would, too - and visas are easier there.

This is all assuming that you have some experience of instructing, as well as holding the rating.
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I am a current UK instructor with with 1500 instruction hrs

Am ex BA TT 8000+

Looking to live and instruct in Florida USA, I would be very interested to learn of any schools who would " bite my arm off"
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USA

So how do you get a visa?
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If your English, with great difficulty!
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Try a US Immigration website?
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I was thinking of getting a FAA rating in the US and then train as a CFI.
I would like to work as a FI later that's why i'm asking.


I will then convert it back to JAA but that is another story.

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"So how do you get a visa?"


.....marry an American!
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Darn.

No real answer yet.

Edit: I heard you should avoid american women

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By my understanding you are not able to convert instructor ratings, so you would have to do it all over in a JAA approved school to work as an instructor in a JAA country.
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Section H LASORS 2008

It seems from what I understand from LASORS is that if you hold an ICAO FI rating. You need to do a "minimum" of 15hrs dual flight training in a JAA school and 30 hrs classroom theory. Then a flight test with an JAA - FI Examiner.

Still need JAR - FCL commercial theory exams passed, and appropriate JAR-FCL licence, PPL or CPL. Long X country flight, minimum flight time etc etc..... as per a new JAR FI Rating

I am a JAA instructor and I am out in Florida for a month in 2 weeks time. I can instruct at a JAA school. However, I cant get paid as I am on a holiday visa. And there is no way I can get a US visa to allow me to work out there.... I have tried.
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You could apply for a J1 student/work visa.

However, according to AOPA US, the Department of State is planning on binning them come June 2010.

See: AOPA Online: Work-study visas for flight students set to end

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I can instruct at a JAA school. However, I cant get paid as I am on a holiday visa.
Thin ice.

Not getting paid doesn't mean that you are not working.

You might be able to do some real volunteer flying with one of the aviation charities on the VWP or B2 visa - but I'd check first.
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Get a visa some other way. Good luck marrying an American Women, they suck anyway. All they care about is themselves.

I am an American, and I married a sweet and beautiful tica from Costa Rica. I love women from all over the world, Europe, Australia, Latin America. They are all great. If you want a Paris Hilton wannabe, come here, we have plenty of them.
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Some good schools to instruct at here in the US are:

Flight Safety Academy: Vero Beach, FL
Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University: Daytona Beach, FL and Prescott, AZ
ATP Flight school: various locations
University of North Dakota: Grand Forks, ND
CAPT: Palm Coast, Florida
Oxford: Goodyear, AZ
FTI: Bakersfield, CA

All of these locations have new aircraft, good bay and bennies, and most are in good locations for flying, except UND in ND ... it's cold and icy.

Hope this helps
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So where do the JAA flight schools in the US get their JAA flight instructors? Wouldn't they sponsor you a visa?
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They use FAA instructors for the training and have their own in house JAA examiners for the test and no, they wont sponsor you, I've tried lots of times.
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Question JAR licence to work as CFI in USA?

I wanted to ask that for doing CFI course with JAR licence,i have first to convert my JAR to FAA and then get the CFI rating.If so,how long it will take to convert and if there are written or only practical examination for that.
And once completed CFI,then what is the scope for working there as Flight Instructor as I have Spanish citizenship.
Some one told me that need sposorship to work there,some that i can work only 1 month for 4 of training.
Here its quite difficult.
Dont know if to do CFI in spain and then go to usa,if so what i have to convert and how or to to CFI in USA??
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To do a JAR-FAA conversion, it would be helpful to know what JAR certificate you hold.

To get a US CFI rating, you need to have a US CPL and an IR rating. You can convert any JAR PPL or CPL to an FAA PPL.

If you have a JAR IR, the rating can be placed on your FAA PPL (subject to category and class restrictions), after you have passed the FAA IR written, and been certified by the FSDO as English proficient (your Euro credentials for language proficiency don't count for obtaining a US license).

Then you have to meet the required hours, written, and practical test for the CPL. That would include a minimum of 3 hours of instruction in preparation for the CPL practical.

If you have a JAR ATPL, you can take the US ATP written and practical test (as long as you meet the hours and age requirements), and get the English proficiency sign-off from the FSDO.

Once you have the US CPL-IR or ATP you can then take the instructor writtens, required instruction, and practical tests.

As far as working, I don't think you'll get that without sponsorship or enough of a business investment to get residency.

Will you answer one for me? I'm a US CFII with a lot of hours, so I don't want to time build (also gave up on wanting to fly the shiny jet a long time ago). But the extraordinary sums (mortgage houses?) being paid for flight instruction in Europe has me wondering how I can go about getting around the Euro rules that restrict employment to Euro citizens. I figure for the amount of money to be made, the FAA-JAA conversions would be pretty painless.
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Recommend you subscribe to 'climb to 350' website as they have scores of flight jobs worldwide offered every day to include numerous flight instructor jobs in US and worldwide.

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