About FAA C.F.I. (Certified Flying Instructor)

[Droste]

MEI Initial

Referring to the two posts mentioned earlier.

Originally Posted by Speedbird48

(post #13)The oral can last all day or at least most of it. The flight check is normally done the next day. It depends on the inspector, and your ability to show him/her that you know your stuff.

Originally Posted by 421C

(post #7)The MEI Initial oral isn't a super long oral. It has some MEI-specific content, but omits a lot of content on the various ASEL maneuvers.

Q1: Is the MEI Initial (oral) going to be a long one?
Q2: Is the MEI Initial exam going to be tested by DPE or FAA Inspector?
Q3. Does the student require to perform instrument approach in MEI (Initial) flight exam?

[B2N2]

Q1: Is the MEI Initial (oral) going to be a long one?
Q2: Is the MEI Initial exam going to be tested by DPE or FAA Inspector?
Q3. Does the student require to perform instrument approach in MEI (Initial) flight exam?

Q1; It could very well be. It is the " regular" CFI oral plus ME subject matter.
You can order a CFI/MEI PTS (practical test standards) online from ASA.
It spells out exactly what an Examiner (DPE or otherwise) needs to cover.

Q2: Either one, depends on the FSDO. If they are not busy they'll do it themselves, if they have nobody to do the test in a reasonable amount of time they'll authorize a DPE.

Q3: No.

[Droste]

I knew that a CFI (ASEL) needs only 10 hours of flying to have an MEI rating.

So, how many hours are required pertaining to sit for MEI initial test?

[philknight29]

61.183 subsection j states "Log at least 15 hours as pilot in command in the category and class of aircraft that is appropriate to the flight instructor rating sought"

So if you have no multi, you'd need that plus 15 PIC after that to be eligible to teach in that aircraft.

PK

[Droste]

Originally Posted by philknight29

So if you have no multi, you'd need that plus 15 PIC after that to be eligible to teach in that aircraft.

Do you mean, prior to for a holder of FAA CPL (ME+IR rating) to sit for initial M.E.I. test, he needs 15 hours of flying in ME?

If so, it makes no difference to sit for initial CFI (ASEL). The initial CFI (ASEL) still needs 15hours of flying!

[B200Drvr]

Agree, With a MEI as your initial, you will not be able to teach on a single until you have done your SE add on.

[tbavprof]

Droste

If you hold an FAA CPL-AME, you will need 15 hours AME PIC to take the FI ME test. And as noted by the other poster, before you can actually instruct, you need 5 hours PIC make and model of an AME. If you got your 15 PIC AME with a PPL, it still counts.

[Droste]

I have a doubt.

I wonder, does any of the initial flight instructor ratings (CFI or CFII or MEI) need to be exam by FAA inspector?

Thank you.

[B200Drvr]

Yes, ALL of the initial CFI tests, whether done in a single or multi, require a DE that has special authorization to conduct these test. In Florida, most initial flight instructor ratings are done by the FSDO, as their are very few DE's that do not work for the FSDO/FAA, and that are permitted to do initial Flight Instructor check rides. Basically, you can expect to go to the FSDO to do it.

[172_driver]

In San Diego there are a few DPE's allowed to do CFI and MEI examinations. I personally did my CFI with a DPE, because the FSDO didn't have time. CFII and MEI I did with a DPE, too.

[Droste]

Originally Posted by 172_driver

In San Diego there are a few DPE's allowed to do CFI and MEI examinations. I personally did my CFI with a DPE, because the FSDO didn't have time. CFII and MEI I did with a DPE, too.

1. Was it sit easy to pass?
2. How long does your oral last?
3. How long was your flight test lasted?

[Droste]

FAA Mult-Engine Instructor Rating

I have few questions about MEI.

No.1. Is it a must to have CFII before proceeding to MEI?

No.2. If an instructor holds CFI and MEI, and later add-on with CFII, must he demonstrate his proficiency in IR in multi-engine airplane so as to get his CFII?

[172_driver]

My initial CFI:

1. Was it sit easy to pass?

I should say, it was exhausting (see Question 2) but not extremely difficult. I'd say it depends on how good theoretical knowledge you have.

2. How long does your oral last?

Mine wasy 8-9 hours, something. Though, I've heard that that is not a normal duration in other parts of the states. However, most my friends here in San Diego had a very long oral. I've heard orals as short as 2 hours.

3. How long was your flight test lasted?

I think mine as 1,8 h long. Some maneuvers I had to demonstrate, other evaluate and correct him on.

[Droste]

Originally Posted by 172_driver

Mine wasy 8-9 hours, something.

Wow...8 - 9 hours! Long hours of oral!

[Droste]

All About Instructor Ratings Questions

I have three separate questions (unrelated to each other) pertaining to FAA flight instructor rating. Hope the experts here can help to answer.

Originally Posted by Droste's Question 1

I know this question may be uncommon practice in the United States. Still, I would like to know.

Supposedly, A CFI (without CFII) had received his MEI rating. However, he wishes to have an add-on rating with CFII.
Now, does he requires to do Instrument approaches in Multi-Engine so as to receive his CFII?

Originally Posted by Droste's Question 2

Is it advisable for a student to finish his CFII before embarking for MEI program?

Originally Posted by Droste's Question 3

Is it advisable for a student (already has his FAA CPL (SE/IR)) to complete his ME/IR/CPL before going for CFI program?

If 'yes' to the above question, what are the reasons for doing so?

If 'not encouage', why?

[tbavprof]

One Year Later

Question #1 - Assuming the CPL you hold is ASE-AME/IR....No, the CFII is not required to be done in a multi. If it is, there are a couple of additional mandatory tasks to be accomplished.

Question #2 -Not required. Whether it's 'advisable' depends on a host of factors. So far, you haven't ever listed reasons why you are asking these questions.

Question #3 - Again, not required, and the same caveats apply on advisability.

I went the CFI ASEL -> CFII -> ME add-on to CPL/IR -> MEI route. Strictly a matter of economics. Instruction income funded the ME training. CFII has more potential customers than a CFI-ASEL.

Yes, initial CFI will be done by FSDO or one of a very few DPE's specially authorized.

If you're well prepared, it's an easy pass. My oral was about 7 hours. Flight test 1.7

Add-ons, 2/2.2 (mostly in actual) and 4/1.6 respectively.



TIme to come clean Droste...why are you asking these questions...what do you want/need?

[Droste]

Originally Posted by 172_driver

I've heard orals as short as 2 hours

How can that be? Inittial CFI oral exam last for two hours?
I suppose the candidate must be AGI and/or IGI inorder to have such privileage!

[Droste]

FAA (initial) CFI. Myth

I understood that it is a norm for initial CFI candidate must be tested by FAA inspector.

However, recently, I just came to know that in some states of U.S.A., initial CFI may not be tested by FAA inspector.

May I know how true it is?

[172_driver]

2 hrs was indeed the duration of the oral for friends of mine, they were no ground instructors before

I did with DPE, got a date with FAA, I said it didn't work for me, was allowed to schedule with DPE.