Standard Spin Recovery
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Homeguard, you are quite right about the whole point and purpose of the 'standard spin recovery'. When spinning was part of the required UK training this is how it was taught and what it was called. I rather think, this being the case, that this discussion is really about whether it should have been so-called.
Where there is no system there is chaos. It makes good sense to refer to specific techniques by reference to a norm or standard. It helps understanding and proper comprehension. There are many instances where a 'standard' does not apply in every respect but this does not detract from the value of the standard itself.
Take the flat spin for example. Here is a good example of what Homeguard was saying about personal techniques. It also shows the value of a standard approach and variations on the theme in explaining recovery methods.
Those teaching the Beggs method would have a recovery along the lines of throttle closed, release the stick, and press (in say an erect Pitts flat spin), right rudder. This will work.
The POH for the Pitts suggests throttle closed, back stick and left aileron which is the method Eric Muller would personally have used. The difference being that Eric would not have moved the stick forward until the rotation had actually stopped and the manual suggests rather sooner.This will also work.
However the method which gives the quickest and most controllable recovery and which allows recovery from a fully developed flat spin on a precise line is quite different and requires the throttle to remain fully open.
(I used this method in my S1 some 25 years ago and it is only in the last few years that I have become aware that it is a technique which is not type specific as I had assumed, but is now quite usual among international competitors flying Extra, Cap, Yak and Sukhoi machines).
Given this variation in possible method confusion is awaiting someone who is learning and tries to understand what is going on. It is quite possible to avoid this by restricting information to one method only. However then the object of both instruction and learning is in part defeated.
In my opinion explication is assisted and undersanding greatly enhanced if the student has in the back of his mind the 'standard spin recovery' because the various alterations departures and changes from that can be seen as a pattern directed to achieving the same ends.
Where there is no system there is chaos. It makes good sense to refer to specific techniques by reference to a norm or standard. It helps understanding and proper comprehension. There are many instances where a 'standard' does not apply in every respect but this does not detract from the value of the standard itself.
Take the flat spin for example. Here is a good example of what Homeguard was saying about personal techniques. It also shows the value of a standard approach and variations on the theme in explaining recovery methods.
Those teaching the Beggs method would have a recovery along the lines of throttle closed, release the stick, and press (in say an erect Pitts flat spin), right rudder. This will work.
The POH for the Pitts suggests throttle closed, back stick and left aileron which is the method Eric Muller would personally have used. The difference being that Eric would not have moved the stick forward until the rotation had actually stopped and the manual suggests rather sooner.This will also work.
However the method which gives the quickest and most controllable recovery and which allows recovery from a fully developed flat spin on a precise line is quite different and requires the throttle to remain fully open.
(I used this method in my S1 some 25 years ago and it is only in the last few years that I have become aware that it is a technique which is not type specific as I had assumed, but is now quite usual among international competitors flying Extra, Cap, Yak and Sukhoi machines).
Given this variation in possible method confusion is awaiting someone who is learning and tries to understand what is going on. It is quite possible to avoid this by restricting information to one method only. However then the object of both instruction and learning is in part defeated.
In my opinion explication is assisted and undersanding greatly enhanced if the student has in the back of his mind the 'standard spin recovery' because the various alterations departures and changes from that can be seen as a pattern directed to achieving the same ends.
