FIR Renewal/lapsed
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Stan Evil,
Thanks for response. I see what you mean, I must have confused revalidation/renewal in my reading of LASORS. However, I was definitely discussing revalidation with the CAA when they assured me that a proficiency check is required.
So does that mean that a CRI, if he keeps the rating valid, need never have his proficiency checked by a FIE?
Am I still confusing something?
Thanks for response. I see what you mean, I must have confused revalidation/renewal in my reading of LASORS. However, I was definitely discussing revalidation with the CAA when they assured me that a proficiency check is required.
So does that mean that a CRI, if he keeps the rating valid, need never have his proficiency checked by a FIE?
Am I still confusing something?
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No you're not confusing anything. The revalidation rules for FI, IRI and CRI are all different:
An FI must do a flight test at least every other revalidation plus either experience or seminar.
An IRI doesn't have to do a flight test so could always revalidate by seminar and experience if he so chose.
A CRI can always just revalidate by experience - no flight test ever after the initial.
An FI with embedded IRI or CRI privileges (ie FI SEME with applied IF restriction removed) can't separate those bits out to avoid them being included in the flight test.
An FI must do a flight test at least every other revalidation plus either experience or seminar.
An IRI doesn't have to do a flight test so could always revalidate by seminar and experience if he so chose.
A CRI can always just revalidate by experience - no flight test ever after the initial.
An FI with embedded IRI or CRI privileges (ie FI SEME with applied IF restriction removed) can't separate those bits out to avoid them being included in the flight test.
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Where to go to Renew
Hi,
I brought this thread back alive as it is related to what has already been said.
My FI(R) expired last May and the last time I instructed was in January. I want to renew my FI(R) so no matter what my hours are I believe I need to do a Seminar and Flight test.
Looking at Ontrack they do seminars for £250, they also do a renewal package of £800 which includes both seminar and flight check with A/C hire included.
Bloody expensive like anything in aviation, but anyone know of any cheaper places to go to as money at the moment is a big issue. Im currently based in Northants (East Midlands) and willing to travel but not to scotland if you what I mean.
Cheers
Mint
I brought this thread back alive as it is related to what has already been said.
My FI(R) expired last May and the last time I instructed was in January. I want to renew my FI(R) so no matter what my hours are I believe I need to do a Seminar and Flight test.
Looking at Ontrack they do seminars for £250, they also do a renewal package of £800 which includes both seminar and flight check with A/C hire included.
Bloody expensive like anything in aviation, but anyone know of any cheaper places to go to as money at the moment is a big issue. Im currently based in Northants (East Midlands) and willing to travel but not to scotland if you what I mean.
Cheers
Mint
Educated Hillbilly
A multi crew IR does not give you any SPA IR privileges (unless the rules have changed recently).
So to teach IR in a SPA you will need a current single pilot IR.
I suppose in thoery you could teach instrument flying (with the student under the hood) without a valid SPA IR if you remain in VMC, but realistically that would be quite limiting.
So to teach IR in a SPA you will need a current single pilot IR.
I suppose in thoery you could teach instrument flying (with the student under the hood) without a valid SPA IR if you remain in VMC, but realistically that would be quite limiting.
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A fundamental principle of JAA is that you must hold the rating that you're teaching for. So, if an IRI wishes to teach for a single-pilot IR, he must hold a single-pilot IR. He can't teach for a multi-pilot IR as these are type-specific and are the province of TRIs.
However, an IRI can also teach for an IMC Rating. To do that he needs to hold:
1. A single pilot IR
or
2. An IMC Rating
or
3. A UK National (not JAA) CPL or ATPL - both of which have embedded IMC privileges.
However, an IRI can also teach for an IMC Rating. To do that he needs to hold:
1. A single pilot IR
or
2. An IMC Rating
or
3. A UK National (not JAA) CPL or ATPL - both of which have embedded IMC privileges.
