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Old 3rd Jan 2008, 13:50
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CPL SEP rating expired

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I have just checked in my little blue CPL book and seen that my SEP rating expired back in August. I am starting an FI course at the end of January and I would like to know what I will need to do to revalidate my SEP rating please? Is It something that I can leave until I get to the school to start the course and get it done before starting or is it a more complicated process than this? I other words do I need to get practicing?!(and spending!)
I need to do 5 hours SEP flying before starting course aswell so maybe I can revalidate rating as part of that??


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Thinks.....

As you've lapsed by less than 5 years all you need to do to revalidate the SEP is an LPC with an examiner. Pre-LPC brush up as required would need to be with an instructor. Both the LPC and brush-up would count towards the 5 hours pre-FI course requirement.

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To revalidate, you will need to take test with an examiner, similar to the ppl test, though probably a fair bit shorter. Most flying schools would be able to do it and you could include it in your 5 hours.

Not sure if strictly required for starting an FIC course, but I would have thought it wouldn't look too good if you pitched up with it lapsed.
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Old 3rd Jan 2008, 15:07
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Thanks guys for your replies... Anyone else care to enlighten??
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DD is quite right, in that it is an LPC rather than a test. I did same not long ago and it was fairly relaxed and took just over an hour.
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If the SEP rating has lapsed you will need to pass a Skills Test not an LPC, although in practice it's hard to tell the difference. As it's more than 5 years out the CAA will issue a new one. If you are serious about instructing then I suggest you invest in a copy of LASORS as soon as possible.
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Old 3rd Jan 2008, 15:42
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JAR-FCL 1.245(f)(2)

If a single-pilot single-engine class rating has expired, the applicant shall complete the skill test in Appendices 1 and 3 to JAR–FCL 1.240.
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you need to do 5 hrs before the FI course?

within what period?
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JAR-FCL 1.335

Before being permitted to begin an approved course of training for a FI(A)rating an applicant shall have:

(c) completed 5 hours in the class immediately prior to passing:

(f) a specific pre-entry flight test with an FIC Instructor within 6 months of starting the course.

So what you need to do is:

(a) Pass an LST
(b) Complete a total of 5 hours
(c) Pass the pre-entry test
(d) Start the course within 6 months.
(c) I suggest you also do a bit of reading!
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Lasors 2007 Section H Para 1.2 would be a good starting point!!
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