Wikiposts
Search
Flying Instructors & Examiners A place for instructors to communicate with one another because some of them get a bit tired of the attitude that instructing is the lowest form of aviation, as seems to prevail on some of the other forums!

IRT PASS -> SPIC or PIC

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 14th Sep 2007, 11:48
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Poughkeepsie
Posts: 236
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
IRT PASS -> SPIC or PIC

Hi,

Title says it all, if you pass the IRT. Is it logged as SPIC time or PIC?

Thanks
frogone is offline  
Old 14th Sep 2007, 11:53
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Posts: 26,835
Received 278 Likes on 113 Posts
Neither - it's PICU/S.
BEagle is offline  
Old 14th Sep 2007, 12:18
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Poughkeepsie
Posts: 236
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Umm... OK, actually that checks, I put everthing down as SPIC in my logbook, and not PIC U/S looks like there's a difference.

Can you tell me what's the definition of 'Instrument Ground Time'. Nothing in the LASORS.

(Trying to break down hours for ATPL )

IR
frogone is offline  
Old 14th Sep 2007, 14:13
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Surrey
Age: 43
Posts: 900
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
are you doing an integrated course? As I understand it only people doing integrated can use SPIC, other wise it is P/UT and PIC/US for a successful skills test.
Blinkz is offline  
Old 14th Sep 2007, 15:09
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 2,523
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Blinkz is correct, SPIC may only be completed when approved within an integrated CPL or ATPL course.

From JAR-FCL 1.001:

Instrument ground time: Time during which a pilot is receiving instruction in simulated instrument flight in synthetic training devices (STDs).
BillieBob is offline  
Old 14th Sep 2007, 15:18
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Isle 6, Dairy produce
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I was under the impression that if you already had your MEP issued then the IRT could be logged as P1 (if passed ofcourse). I got that from the examiner that tested me.
Kanu is offline  
Old 14th Sep 2007, 20:13
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: London
Age: 51
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It's logged as PIC/US for a passed test, and counts as PIC for the purpose of licence issue (from the examiner who passed me last week!)
neilia is offline  
Old 18th Sep 2007, 09:51
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Scotland
Age: 46
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Who gives a toss how it is logged?? A sucessful skills test counts towards ur P1 hrs, but no one is going to care if you log it as SPIC, PICUS, PRICK or anything else for that matter. Can u really see the CAA sending ur licence request back cos u logged ur IR skills test as PIC instead of PICUS? NO.
Baboon Boy is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.