B737 FO with FI rating

[Jinkster]

Next week I am on the jump seat as safety pilot for a new First Officer. I do not hold any instructor qualifications on a Boeing 737 however I am a Flying Instructor.

It's a long shot but...can I log the Instructor hours as I will be showing him paperwork, handling the radio etc?

Thanks in Advance!

Jinkster

[Dr Eckener]

In a word - NO

[Human Factor]

No. You are there as a Safety Pilot for the Captain, not the new FO. You are there to act as an extra pair of eyes for him while his spare capacity is devoted to training the new chap.

[Jinkster]

Thanks for all the help! Thought so but worth a try!!

[Megaton]

As an FI presumably you're aware of the privileges of your licence?

Smiley to indicate gentle banter!

[VFE]

Oooooh, healthy banter - good Ham!

Poor bugga.... he's just thinking more about how he's gonna pay for his next pack of ploughmans sarnies from WH Smiths!

VFE.

[michaelknight]

If you're new to the 737, I'd check that you have enough hours to be safety pilot. FI rating won't cover it.

MK

[NorthernSkySailing]

Respectfully, I would check very carefully that your Ops Manual states what your duties and responsibilities are, and then consider whether you have had enough (any?) training for this 'safety pilot' role...

If not, and the company say that you're just there to do a Cat 3 landing if the need arises, do the sensible thing and sit in the cabin drinking tea until you're called for.

IMHO, having professionals in the flight deck to carry out undefined roles for which they have not been trained is a recipe for trouble, and I'd not be part of it (that said, I'm never likely to be).

[Jinkster]

thanks for the info chaps!

[A Very Civil Pilot]

Safety pilots are usually there to take over if the trainee F/O is not able to cope with the flying (and also if the Captain drops dead!).

Rather than sitting in the back, they are also a third pair of eyes and ears on the flightdeck. The workload is going to be very high for both pilots, so having a third person adds 'safety' to the operation. Whenever I have been a safety pilot, I've usually looked after the paperwork, supervised the fuelling, done the walkround, ordered the coffee etc. Captain and trainee F/O get more of an opportunity to do what they need: instruct and learn.

After the first 4 sectors, when the safety pilot is released, the the new F/O can worry about the paperwork etc.

[T's&P's]

As professional you should look at official documentation. LASORS gives precise direction how to log Safety Pilot time.
Regards
T+P