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Old 16th Apr 2007, 15:19
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If you'll allow a non instructor, non highly experienced PPL a word ...

I'd guess your chances of getting work as a CRI are directly proportional to both what you have to offer and what is required. As a CRI with little more experience than a fresh FIR you won't be particularly employable. If however, you are a well placed competition aeros pilot, have thousands of hours, an IR, ME or whatever experience a particular school needs ... you'll be snapped up When I say employed, I mean of course, used/allowed to help out To earn you will of course need a CPL, accept maybe for ground exams if you're allowed to teach them???

I'm tempted as it does seem a great qualification for the cost and may be of use to hit the ground running if an NPPL SEP instructor rating does come along. I doubt I'll ever have the spare cash to get the CPL's and FIR as things stand I personally don't think I'm ready just yet from a currency point of view, but by the end of the year that will be different now I'm getting a lot more flying in

As far as the rest of this thread goes .... hmmmmm It's the same old arguments yet again so maybe I'll keep other than to say PPL instructors seemed to do a reasonable job back when I learned ... or maybe they didn't?

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Old 16th Apr 2007, 15:29
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I was told a CRI couldn't teach IMC or Night? Is there any reference doc that clearly states what can and can't be tought?

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CRI can't teach night. CRI with an IRI can teach both IMC and IR. Anyone wanting to teach ME must be a CRI(ME).
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Again, I totally agree. Perhaps you need to water down your stereotypical impression of flying instructors under the age of 50? Seems to me that you cannot get past the idea that the odd young & naive FI might look down their nose at someone with a broad GA background like your good self. I can assure you that I afford every pilot I meet the same amount of respect regardless of experience and certainly would never think myself above the mark simply because I have a few bits of paper more than the next man let alone someone with more flying hours.

And what has airway flying got to do with this discussion? Really!!

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Ha! Now I understand where the chip comes from!!! I have not once EVER mentioned age as being a factor when it comes to my views on the standard of training. In fact I recall stating that I have flown with many "young" Instructors who know there stuff and make fine Instructors. I am flying with one such person tomorrow.

It is you that has your nappy in a twist about that one........
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Old 16th Apr 2007, 18:18
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In fact I recall stating that I have flown with many "young" Instructors who know there stuff and make fine Instructors. I am flying with one such person tomorrow.
In your opinion.

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He who makes the loudest noise has the most valid opinion.............
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Old 16th Apr 2007, 20:16
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"Maybe if you did the CPL theory yourself, Beagle, you could actually speak with some authority. Empty vessels and all that, old chap."

Well, I do recall a most interesting time wading through the PPSC Air Law package all those years ago. Which certainly included the regulations for cabin crew in CAT aircraft and the system of lights to be displayed by tethered balloons....

None of which is relevant to PPL instruction!
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Old 16th Apr 2007, 20:20
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Smithgd,

Do you have any experience flying PFA aircraft?

If you really are interested in becoming a CRI (and it seems like you've made up your mind, despite several people telling you there's not much chance of work!), then perhaps the PFA coaching scheme might be of some interest.

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Old 17th Apr 2007, 08:08
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No experience of PFA, but will checkout the link. thanks

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Old 21st Apr 2007, 16:37
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smithgd,

The PFA Coaching Scheme look to experienced instructors to provide training on PFA types. Unless you have extensive experience on PFA types, you would probably do better looking elsewhere until you have already done some instructing. PM me for more details.

The NPPL [SSEA] FI rating is probably worth holding out for. Otherwise, try a Microlight FI rating, and get some experience that way. There will almost certainly be a conversion to the NPPL [SSEA] FI when it finally arrives, including credits for the NPPL [Microlight] FI Rating.

The CRI rating also seems a good starting point - I am sure you would pick up some instructing at your local club.

Good luck whatever you choose.

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