JAA instructor on PPL (A) license??
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Bose,
Sorry , I should have been more specific. I was just interested in reading where the debate with the CAA/AOPA and/or the JAA was going as an aside from what is very elqouently being said by you, BEagle and others on here.
I take it that aside from BEagle's paper nothing else has been written?
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Sorry , I should have been more specific. I was just interested in reading where the debate with the CAA/AOPA and/or the JAA was going as an aside from what is very elqouently being said by you, BEagle and others on here.
I take it that aside from BEagle's paper nothing else has been written?
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Joe,
No there is plenty written about it and more than just Beagles proposal. They are sat with EASA at the moment. I am not sure on the progress as they are on the periphary of the things I am dealing (Intrument Rating) but I am happy to enquire and provide you with more information.
No there is plenty written about it and more than just Beagles proposal. They are sat with EASA at the moment. I am not sure on the progress as they are on the periphary of the things I am dealing (Intrument Rating) but I am happy to enquire and provide you with more information.
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Yes MILECR I know of many also who are flying for various airlines after having got 1000 hrs plus flying single crew. Some got their hours under the old PPL FI BCPL CPL IR ATPL others more recently.
In the future under this proposal they will just pitch up at the flying school earlier with PPL FI rather than CPL FI...... i.e. less exams passed and then do the exams/flight tests whilst working at the school
In the future under this proposal they will just pitch up at the flying school earlier with PPL FI rather than CPL FI...... i.e. less exams passed and then do the exams/flight tests whilst working at the school
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Possibly but will they have as much knowledge, skill and experience?
Schools want continuity, they hate the short term hours builders and the PPL FI route suits them. So they will be able to choose from the experianced guys.
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
EASA requies instructors to have theoretical knowledge and experience requirements '....appropriate for the instruction being given'.
So it is highly likely that the PPL/FI will have several hundred hours of relevant personal experience of grass strip operation, navigating around the UK under VFR and experiencing UK weather over a few years as a PPL holder, probably one who has used an IMC Rating. Which will be of a lot more use than someone whose sole experience amounts to minimum time beacon-bashing under the hood or a handful of hours staggering around the sky in a Seneca on one engine wth an instructor in the other seat.
Own flying skills, ability to impart instruction and knowledge of the exercises to be flown, plus appropriate theoretical knowledge will be no lower than the present 'standard' - and hopefully the focus will be on the ability to impart instruction.
Additionally, it could well be a less expensive, albeit slower route to the airlines for those who yearn to fly people-tubes. Obtain PPL, IMC Rating and Night Qualification and build up flying time. Apply for FI course. Apply for job as PPL/FI. Get paid - and save pennies towards CPL/IR. Meanwhile, network with others and perhaps get noticed and accepted for full airline sponsorship - which will have to come as the pilot shortage is unlikely to be met any other way.......
So it is highly likely that the PPL/FI will have several hundred hours of relevant personal experience of grass strip operation, navigating around the UK under VFR and experiencing UK weather over a few years as a PPL holder, probably one who has used an IMC Rating. Which will be of a lot more use than someone whose sole experience amounts to minimum time beacon-bashing under the hood or a handful of hours staggering around the sky in a Seneca on one engine wth an instructor in the other seat.
Own flying skills, ability to impart instruction and knowledge of the exercises to be flown, plus appropriate theoretical knowledge will be no lower than the present 'standard' - and hopefully the focus will be on the ability to impart instruction.
Additionally, it could well be a less expensive, albeit slower route to the airlines for those who yearn to fly people-tubes. Obtain PPL, IMC Rating and Night Qualification and build up flying time. Apply for FI course. Apply for job as PPL/FI. Get paid - and save pennies towards CPL/IR. Meanwhile, network with others and perhaps get noticed and accepted for full airline sponsorship - which will have to come as the pilot shortage is unlikely to be met any other way.......
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From: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
No - because the key requirement is for 'appropriate' experience. Rather than some meaningless hours figure gained flogging up and down the East Floridian coast, the intention is for competency-based assessment.
'Hours' prove NOTHING!
'Hours' prove NOTHING!
