Aberdeen Flying Club
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Aberdeen Flying Club
Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere.
I am hearing that FAS have put the Aberdeen Flying Club up for sale, £170,000 asking price for the ops.
Will a buyer be found or could this spell the end of main flying club activities at ABZ.
I am hearing that FAS have put the Aberdeen Flying Club up for sale, £170,000 asking price for the ops.
Will a buyer be found or could this spell the end of main flying club activities at ABZ.
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By the sounds of things FAS ABZ may not be in business for much longer ... let alone find a buyer for £170,000. 
Still, there's already another flying club up and running so there will be plenty of flying club activities.
Still, there's already another flying club up and running so there will be plenty of flying club activities.
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Being slightly pedantic FAS own the Aberdeen Flying SCHOOL which is on the market.
Grampian Airways Flying Club are operating airways equipped warrior & saratoga a/c & provide a full range of training including IMC training & PPL hire thanks to the support of many of the previous Aberdeen Flying CLUB members who want to see "the Club" return to it's former glory
Grampian Airways Flying Club are operating airways equipped warrior & saratoga a/c & provide a full range of training including IMC training & PPL hire thanks to the support of many of the previous Aberdeen Flying CLUB members who want to see "the Club" return to it's former glory
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Flight Academy Scotland (Aberdeen) has been in a downward spiral for some time but the final nails are being hammered into the coffin. Some of the problems are bills not being paid with fuel being denied recently and snags building up on the aircraft and not getting fixed. No doubt students will start voting with their feet and understandably too!
Shame - it could of been a fantastic little club but the new set up 'next door' seems to be more organised and they have plans for a social element to the club which has been lacking ever since FAS took over.
As for finding a buyer... now that is something to have a laugh at!
They will be in for a very long wait!
Shame - it could of been a fantastic little club but the new set up 'next door' seems to be more organised and they have plans for a social element to the club which has been lacking ever since FAS took over.
As for finding a buyer... now that is something to have a laugh at!
They will be in for a very long wait!
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The link to the sales site is here:
http://www.business-partnership.com/newTBP/a361508.aspx
AI has languished in Perth with a time expired engine for about a year & has been robbed of parts to keep the other two 152's flying. The 172 has relocated to cumbernauld & customers who had booked it in July were told it's gone tech. The Ops assistant leaves later this month, the 3 full time flying instructors are at present 2 & will probably be 1 soon as they've slashed the more senior instructor's retainer by £2k per annum.
£150,000 ? I wouldn't pay £1.50
http://www.business-partnership.com/newTBP/a361508.aspx
AI has languished in Perth with a time expired engine for about a year & has been robbed of parts to keep the other two 152's flying. The 172 has relocated to cumbernauld & customers who had booked it in July were told it's gone tech. The Ops assistant leaves later this month, the 3 full time flying instructors are at present 2 & will probably be 1 soon as they've slashed the more senior instructor's retainer by £2k per annum.
£150,000 ? I wouldn't pay £1.50
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Grampian Flying Club flew all day today, Clubhouse was packed. One of the best days I've seen there. The atmosphere was great - almost like a celebration - people in and out all day.
Looks like the Flight Academy students and remaining instructors who couldn't fly today were in with the Grampian people. By 17.00hrs Signature were still refusing to provide Flight Academy with fuel and there old bowser was still parked in front of FAS's one remaining aircraft in ABZ. Situation looking quite bad for FAS in ABZ :-(
Anybody know if Cumbernauld is still operating?
Looks like the Flight Academy students and remaining instructors who couldn't fly today were in with the Grampian people. By 17.00hrs Signature were still refusing to provide Flight Academy with fuel and there old bowser was still parked in front of FAS's one remaining aircraft in ABZ. Situation looking quite bad for FAS in ABZ :-(
Anybody know if Cumbernauld is still operating?
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By all accounts FAS were quite subdued Yesterday after the bungled "Friday night take away" attempt.
At least there's more room on the apron for Grampian's expansion plans & their already thriving club now that FAS are down to one dry 152 with no-one willing to fly it.Even the newer of the 2 instructors, who hung on as long as they could, is believed to be going back to his previous job.
Just hope everyone gets paid & doesn't have to ask "where's My money?" or resort to litigation although at this stage the signs don't look good
Maybe the baseball bats were on tic too & have been reposessed
At least there's more room on the apron for Grampian's expansion plans & their already thriving club now that FAS are down to one dry 152 with no-one willing to fly it.Even the newer of the 2 instructors, who hung on as long as they could, is believed to be going back to his previous job.Just hope everyone gets paid & doesn't have to ask "where's My money?" or resort to litigation although at this stage the signs don't look good
Maybe the baseball bats were on tic too & have been reposessed
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Yes on Fri they flew up with a 172 & 152 in tow, but left only with the 172.
A question though. If bills were unpaid, how come ABZ allowed them in but, more pertinently, allow the 172 out again? Shouldn't BAA or somebody not have blocked the taxiway to prevent this? It's not as if they sneaked in!
Or was that too simple.
A question though. If bills were unpaid, how come ABZ allowed them in but, more pertinently, allow the 172 out again? Shouldn't BAA or somebody not have blocked the taxiway to prevent this? It's not as if they sneaked in!
Or was that too simple.
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Think the photographic evidence would suggest that they flew in with a 172 which had been 'on loan' to Cumbernauld for the last number of weeks with four up. The 2 152s had remained in ABZ other than maintenance trips to Perth. It was the 152s which didn't leave.
FAS have a very large unpaid fuel bill, having apparently having paid their insurance and the large NATs bill, so it was Signature who were well within their rights to not allow the 152s to leave until the debt's cleared.
FAS have a very large unpaid fuel bill, having apparently having paid their insurance and the large NATs bill, so it was Signature who were well within their rights to not allow the 152s to leave until the debt's cleared.
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Its a real shame when this sort of thing happens.
Hmm I bet the the instructors didn't think it was that great, I wouldn't like to turn up to work one day to find no fuel and somone trying to steal my planes.
The atmosphere was great - almost like a celebration - people in and out all day.
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Sad if it is being used as a "christmas tree" for parts...
Sad if it is being used as a "christmas tree" for parts...
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I can confirm that Cumbernauld is still up and running albeit in very limited form. I was at PIK recently when an instructor taxied their katana into a bollard wrecking the prop, (see below)
It may be that the FI's at Aberdeen will need to resort to legal action to secure their money owed. I know that both the original FI's from Cumbernauld had to resort to legal action to secure their final payments before leaving, although not before one of the said FI's took rather more direct action with the manager concerned.
Good luck to the FI's and all the best to Grampian.
It may be that the FI's at Aberdeen will need to resort to legal action to secure their money owed. I know that both the original FI's from Cumbernauld had to resort to legal action to secure their final payments before leaving, although not before one of the said FI's took rather more direct action with the manager concerned.
Good luck to the FI's and all the best to Grampian.
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DR was positioned to Perth for a 50 hour check with 8 hours still left on Saturday but the attempt to do the same with RN was thwarted by signature. Not that it was predictable :-)
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Should this be on TV?
What a state! I wonder if the prop smashing pilot was the same one that took off on the wrong runway at ABZ last week and is now the subject of a MOR from ATC!!! These guys are a joke. You couldn't script this stuff
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Given the uncertainty surrounding their jobs I must admit the local staff in ABZ have done their best to cope in a very difficult & stressful situation.
Whilst not knowing the details of the incident in full I do know that the individual concerned immediately declared himself unfit to fly for the rest of the day as soon as He landed & i defy anyone to keep their mind on the job with all the turmoil at present at FAS Aberdeen. Maybe He should be banished to the frozen North
Whilst not knowing the details of the incident in full I do know that the individual concerned immediately declared himself unfit to fly for the rest of the day as soon as He landed & i defy anyone to keep their mind on the job with all the turmoil at present at FAS Aberdeen. Maybe He should be banished to the frozen North