Ppl Ir/imc
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Ppl Ir/imc
After an extensive thrawl through LASORS, can anybody confirm that a PPL IR lapses to an IMC rating after 12 months and for 12 months. I understand this happens with a CPL IR, but cannot find evidence that the same happens with a private license.
Thanks in advance...
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I think you are thinking of the CAA CPL or ATPL. They have non-expiring IMC privileges as part of the base licence. So when the IR expired the instrument privileges remaining were derived from the base licence not the IR.
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My understanding is that both JD and MJ are correct - but speaking on different subjects/
My other understanding is that the subsequent IMC privilidges (on I/R expiry) are valid for 10 years.
My other understanding is that the subsequent IMC privilidges (on I/R expiry) are valid for 10 years.
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The IMC ratig is not valid without a Certificate of Test - ANO 2005 Article 31.
In order for your 12 month IR to lapse to a 25 month IMC rating, the rating will have to be in Part XII of your Licence and you will need a valid Certificate of Test; this could have been signed by the IRE/CRE when you completed the last IR test.
Without that, your IR does not lapse to an IMC rating.
If you hold a UK CPL or ATPL then the licence only prohibits IFR flight in Class A, B and C controlled airspace; therefore you do not need an IMC rating to fly IFR in Class E, F and G airspace.
If you hold a JAA licence regardless of type, you cannot fly IFR without either a valid IR or a UK IMC rating for which a Cof T is required.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/175/SECTION%20E.pdf
In order for your 12 month IR to lapse to a 25 month IMC rating, the rating will have to be in Part XII of your Licence and you will need a valid Certificate of Test; this could have been signed by the IRE/CRE when you completed the last IR test.
Without that, your IR does not lapse to an IMC rating.
If you hold a UK CPL or ATPL then the licence only prohibits IFR flight in Class A, B and C controlled airspace; therefore you do not need an IMC rating to fly IFR in Class E, F and G airspace.
If you hold a JAA licence regardless of type, you cannot fly IFR without either a valid IR or a UK IMC rating for which a Cof T is required.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/175/SECTION%20E.pdf
Last edited by Whopity; 19th December 2005 at 22:28.
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If you hold a UK CPL or ATPL then the licence only prohibits IFR flight in Class A, B and C controlled airspace; therefore you do not need an IMC rating to fly IFR in Class E, F and G airspace.
And Class D. Holders are also exempt from the 1800m vis rule for take off and landing and the 3k min vis for SVFR, and no requirement for C of T.
If you hold a UK CPL or ATPL then the licence only prohibits IFR flight in Class A, B and C controlled airspace; therefore you do not need an IMC rating to fly IFR in Class E, F and G airspace.
And Class D. Holders are also exempt from the 1800m vis rule for take off and landing and the 3k min vis for SVFR, and no requirement for C of T.
