East Herts Flying School FIC
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East Herts Flying School FIC
Does any one have any info/views/opinions on East Herts' FIC course ?
I see in the back of one of the flying mags they are advertising for FIC wannabes to go on their course and get a 12 month job with them in to the bargain. What do you think ? At £4999 it seems a good deal cheaper than most other places.
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I see in the back of one of the flying mags they are advertising for FIC wannabes to go on their course and get a 12 month job with them in to the bargain. What do you think ? At £4999 it seems a good deal cheaper than most other places.
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I suggest that you do a search on this forum for a lowdown on what the instructors thinks of this school. And although the FIC seems cheap, if you end up working at that school, then you may end up forking out for a psychometric test, plus a check out in all the different aircraft varients at your own expense. Soon all adds up.
Out of curiousity, who did they get in the end as an FI Instructor?
Out of curiousity, who did they get in the end as an FI Instructor?
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I know of someone who looked into taking an instructor job at Panshanger quite recently but as I haven't seen him in over 2 months I don't know whether he took the position or not. The place certainly isn't everyone's cup of tea!
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buzzc152,
There was talk of an FI course there some years ago. EHFS can only be described as something to miss. The course might be ok (hope the owner isn't teaching it). I wouldn't want to work there.
I don't know exactly where you live but Andrews Field do a cracking course. Similar price, too.
There was talk of an FI course there some years ago. EHFS can only be described as something to miss. The course might be ok (hope the owner isn't teaching it). I wouldn't want to work there.
I don't know exactly where you live but Andrews Field do a cracking course. Similar price, too.
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As far as I know EHFS are not approved to do FI(R) courses, neither is the owner/CFI approved to run them.
Trade descriptions may be invoked here if they are advertising things that they cannot provide.
As to the contractual side of working there, I understand no one stays for very long so it may be someway of keeping otherwise very reluctant employees to stay. Someone once mentioned they would rather work for the Muhadjadin on a previous post.
Caveat Emptor and all that anyway!
Trade descriptions may be invoked here if they are advertising things that they cannot provide.
As to the contractual side of working there, I understand no one stays for very long so it may be someway of keeping otherwise very reluctant employees to stay. Someone once mentioned they would rather work for the Muhadjadin on a previous post.
Caveat Emptor and all that anyway!
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Give it a miss
I can definitely give facts and opinions about this operation as I checked them out and experienced first hand what a thoroughly unprofessional and unpleasant outfit they are......aircraft are naff, owner is egotistical nutcase who treats people like dirt, high turnover of staff, rip off! rip off! rip off! - instructors are treated with disdain and tasks include cleaning the tables etc when not flying, oh did I mention processing all of the usual admin tasks as well. Pressure to operate in poor weather etc etc etc - If you learn here you might think that all of the this is the norm - Believe me it isn't ! There are plenty of professional outfits out there who will train you to professional standards.
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I know of a guy who fairly recently started working there as a full-time FI. I hear he's still there so perhaps things have improved a little! Didn't realise they could run a FIC though!!
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unfazed is right - leopard doesn't change etc. Crosswind limits your friend is probably some sort of masochist as I hear nothings changed. Yes they do have FIC approval!!! Personally I'd not send my worst enemy there, but on second thoughts I've just realised he's already there!
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Maybe you should take another look, EHFS is very professional with the usual fleet of PA-28's, in addition it has added a decent cafe and pleasant surroundings in the shape of a large fish pond.
During the winter they have a blazing log fire which is most welcome if you arrive at 10:00 on an icy Saturday morning.
Leopards may not change their spots but humans are rather more genetically advanced (well most of them anyway!).
During the winter they have a blazing log fire which is most welcome if you arrive at 10:00 on an icy Saturday morning.
Leopards may not change their spots but humans are rather more genetically advanced (well most of them anyway!).
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I know of someone who looked into taking an instructor job at Panshanger quite recently but I haven't seen him in over 2 months ...
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I heard recently that the name had changed to North London Flying Club ? Now why would you change your operating company name ? Possible reasons might include - terrible reputation, need to dissolve due to financial reasons, avoiding litigation from disgruntled staff, customers or tax man ?
If you wan't to give £5k to an organisation like this ask yourself why ? ???
Why not invest the money in an organisation that will give you the training and career start that you need to get a decent job. Remember that you are investing in yourself and you should demand the very highest standards of training. Also there are many jobs out there at the moment for FI's as many are gaining those long awaited airline jobs and moving on. Do not be swayed by dubious sponsorships or "guaranteed" jobs where you have to pay money to bankroll a dodgy outfit.
If you wan't to give £5k to an organisation like this ask yourself why ? ???
Why not invest the money in an organisation that will give you the training and career start that you need to get a decent job. Remember that you are investing in yourself and you should demand the very highest standards of training. Also there are many jobs out there at the moment for FI's as many are gaining those long awaited airline jobs and moving on. Do not be swayed by dubious sponsorships or "guaranteed" jobs where you have to pay money to bankroll a dodgy outfit.
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Yes it's changed it's name to North London Flying Club see: http://www.northlondonflyingschool.com/. Not much on the website except the one page. Name may have changed but I guess it is still the SOS as before.
in addition it has added a decent cafe and pleasant surroundings in the shape of a large fish pond.
Where do I sign up?!
£250 for an assessment...the're avin a giraffe!
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From the website:
Does anyone know what the "JAR Professional Pilot Training Package" is? I have worked for two different approved FTOs and have never heard of it. According to the CAA list North London Flying School is not approved for any courses, and under the old name of East Herts they are only approved for various flight instructor courses, none of the professional pilot training courses. The list is dated 14 February 2006.
Anyone know what is going on there?
We have been approved, by the UK Civil Aviation Authority, to conduct the training provided by the JAR Professional Pilot Training Package and the Individual JAR Modular Training Courses
Anyone know what is going on there?
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Lovely
The laminate flooring in the canteen is nice.. Whos the cool dude in shades stroking the bell end of that airplane?Seriously what all this psychological assessment stuff - its seems an unneccessary financial burden at £250.00
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