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Old 19th Feb 2000, 00:53
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Regular readers of Pprune will know my opinion of FAA training. However, how do we feel about a British (notice that I didn't say UK) school that 'guarantees' a PPL in the minimum hours?

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Old 19th Feb 2000, 12:07
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Was sincerely hoping this thread was dead by now, I guess not!!!
 
Old 19th Feb 2000, 19:17
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Same tone as the Johnny foreigner job thives has in the Wannabes forum...
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Old 19th Feb 2000, 20:33
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JJ - yes, I agree with you. That 'Johnny Foreigner Job Thieves' thing is pretty unsavoury. At the risk of causing further offence, yesterday I conducted a PPL Skill Test. Most went OK. but the guy's navigation wasn't good enough. I have to say that it was the 'applicant' himself who confided that he hadn't really been taught much about navigation..........at an 'instant pilot' school in the USofA. I blame my own instructors for not getting him up to speed to some extent - but why oh why wasn't he taught properly over there. As JJ says - we can't generalise as there MUST be some places in the US producing excellent pilots, surely??
 
Old 20th Feb 2000, 07:23
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There does seem to be a lot of US flight school bashing here but the agitators forget an important point. If the standard of US flight training is generally poor then perhaps the accident statistics would bear that claim out? The fact is that as a percentage, the number of fatal and non-fatal accidents within US GA is the same as it is in virtually all European countries. Explain that one if you can!

As an FAA CFI I often have to check-out foreign pilots seeking to rent aircraft from our school in the States. Whilst the average foreign pilot demonstrates higher procedural abilities, i.e. check-list compliance, etc, I've seen a noticeable trend in poor slow flight control and landing skills plus patterns (or circuits) that are so wide as to cause concern should the engine fail at low altitude. Again we go back to the essential difference between FAA and CAA/JAA training and I agree there are weaknesses, but not as some of your contributors make out, all the fault of the FAA!
 
Old 20th Feb 2000, 10:01
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Quite right!! And why do some UK schools teach such ridiculously wide patterns?? I was always taught to stay within gliding range of the aerodrome whenever possible in the visual circuit (closed pattern).
 
Old 23rd Feb 2000, 10:06
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Many moons ago I went to Florida to do my multi-engine rating. My pre-flight briefing consisted of "Go check the gas in the Seneca"
Having never even flown a CSU aircraft, and having no handbooks or anything, it was pretty hard to work out what was going on. The only assymetrics we did were in the cruise. How bad is that for instructing technique?

Recently a student has come here to us in Aus with a UK PPL done in the USA. He only had 1.4 hours I.F. How on earth did he get a UK PPL??!!

HOWEVER we all fly our worst on check-rides and flight tests. I have seen some very good and some shocking flying from PPLs from all over the world, including the UK.

OK folks, I'm closing this thread now due to it's length, but please feel free to continue the subject on a new thread if you like.
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