Attitudes
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Attitudes
To what extent do you instructors evaluate a student's attitude to flying (by which I mean students respect for an activity that can be unforgiving of lack of respect rather than their approach to learning)? Following on from that what do, or can you do, if you regard a student's attitude to be dangerous? Finally, if a student is competent in the mechanics of flying but still shows a poor attitude, would you put them forward for, or give them a pass grade, in the skills test?
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An attitude alone cannot be dangerous, unless the student has a serious medical problem. An inappropriate attitude will inevitably manifest itself in ways that can be construed as being potentially dangerous. A lack of checks, overconfidence, a lack of awareness etc will all lead to errors that would be good reason for not putting a candidate up for test, or for failing them if they failed to perform addquately in a Skill Test.
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I have to be honest and say that if a candidate comes to me for a skill test with an attitude, I will play the skill test totally by the book. Cause he's the sort of guy who will complain about the conduct if/when I fail him. If you play the skill test totally by the rules he /she will invariably show good reason to fail. This is not to say a good attitude candidate gets short change and a skill test not played to the rules. But if someone shows good airmanship and a reasonable flying skill, I feel confident they will go on with the licence and learn from their own mistakes. I tend then to give them a second chance at the odd mistake and always try and give them the benefit of the doubt provided they are safe. Something to do with 'Gut feeling?'
If I am teaching a bad attitude student, I shut up let them get on with, wait for them to F... up big style so that they probably S... them selves and nothing else normally has to be said. Let them make the cockup and they sure as hell will realise who is right!!! In fact I will sometimes go to the extent of overloading them or giving them much harder tasks to do, just to catch them out. They have to learn whilst with an instructor because once qualified the could kill em selves. Always let them make the mistake. Don't hand it to them.
The art of a good instructor is one who plays the lesson to the students capability, task in hand, student experience, charactor, and of course their attitude to the whole flying thing.
If I am teaching a bad attitude student, I shut up let them get on with, wait for them to F... up big style so that they probably S... them selves and nothing else normally has to be said. Let them make the cockup and they sure as hell will realise who is right!!! In fact I will sometimes go to the extent of overloading them or giving them much harder tasks to do, just to catch them out. They have to learn whilst with an instructor because once qualified the could kill em selves. Always let them make the mistake. Don't hand it to them.
The art of a good instructor is one who plays the lesson to the students capability, task in hand, student experience, charactor, and of course their attitude to the whole flying thing.
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I've my way of dealing with cocky students, just make them fly straight and level for 10 mins, they'll soon come down a peg or 20.
Somone on pprune has a great signature that I use when I feel a student is starting to get over-confident. "Confident, cocky, lazy, Dead." Says it all really.
Somone on pprune has a great signature that I use when I feel a student is starting to get over-confident. "Confident, cocky, lazy, Dead." Says it all really.
