FTL and instructing
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FTL and instructing
I have just started work with a turbo prop operator, and have been told I cannot continue to instruct on my days off as this will contravine flight time limitation rules, unless I instruct for free. Is this the case? Can a couple of trial lessons really matter? Do other line pilots instruct on their days off?
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According to a previous thread, PFA coaches and assistant coaches can receive £25 per flight "expenses" without it being considered aerial work - hence a PPL holder can be a coach. This has (according to the PFA) been agreed to by the CAA.
With this precedent having been set, maybe part time flying instructors could also receive £25 per flight "expenses" without it being considered aerial work and hence not counting for FTL. This would have the added bonus that the "expenses" would not be remuneration and thus would not be taxable. It is of course a grey area and CAA clarification would be needed.
The whole thing is bureaucracy gone mad anyway. The purpose of an FTL scheme is to prevent undue fatigue. I would like somebody to explain why an hour of paid insructing on a day off is more fatiguing than an hour of unpaid instructing.
With this precedent having been set, maybe part time flying instructors could also receive £25 per flight "expenses" without it being considered aerial work and hence not counting for FTL. This would have the added bonus that the "expenses" would not be remuneration and thus would not be taxable. It is of course a grey area and CAA clarification would be needed.
The whole thing is bureaucracy gone mad anyway. The purpose of an FTL scheme is to prevent undue fatigue. I would like somebody to explain why an hour of paid insructing on a day off is more fatiguing than an hour of unpaid instructing.
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It may have been agreed by the CAA however, the law has not been changed and Article 130 quite clearly defines remunerated flying as Aerial Work. The said coaches may have an Exemption to the ANO to accept remuneration however, do they hold an exemption that changes the definition of Aerial Work?
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Noggin,
As far as I am aware the PFA coaches have not got an ANO exemption to receive remuneration, which is why they have to call the money they get "expenses".
The point relevent to this thread however is could an instructor give his services to a flying club or group for free, but still claim expenses? For example could the club re-imburse the cost of attending an instructor seminar without it being counted as remuneration (and therefore aerial work)?
The answer to this would be of interest to me.
As far as I am aware the PFA coaches have not got an ANO exemption to receive remuneration, which is why they have to call the money they get "expenses".
The point relevent to this thread however is could an instructor give his services to a flying club or group for free, but still claim expenses? For example could the club re-imburse the cost of attending an instructor seminar without it being counted as remuneration (and therefore aerial work)?
The answer to this would be of interest to me.
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The way to determine if a flight is for hire or reward is to ask the question, if the flight did not take place, will the payment still be made?
In the cases of expenses, if you drive to the airfield and you get rained off, you have still incurred the expense of going there so it has nothing to do with the flight. Similarly if a club pays your seminar or instructor renewal costs it does not relate to any specific flight.
There are flying clubs where instructors are not paid for instruction and receive travel expenses etc or a daily allowance for being at the club. Provided such expenses are paid regardless of flying, they cannot be regarded as remuneration for the flight.
In the cases of expenses, if you drive to the airfield and you get rained off, you have still incurred the expense of going there so it has nothing to do with the flight. Similarly if a club pays your seminar or instructor renewal costs it does not relate to any specific flight.
There are flying clubs where instructors are not paid for instruction and receive travel expenses etc or a daily allowance for being at the club. Provided such expenses are paid regardless of flying, they cannot be regarded as remuneration for the flight.
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In Australia with a Commercial or higher licence flight time limitations are effected by any private flying you do and consequently may make your next flight both illegal and not covered by insurance (same as not holding a licence at all). See Civil Aviation Orders Section 48.0.1.3
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Instructing according to CAP 371 is aerial work whether you are payed or not! And thus the hours go towards your total maximum flight time per month or year. It doesn't however effect your duty time.
You are meant to have the AOC holders permission to instruct on your days off. I know lots of people that don't have permission but still instruct.
The rules in CAP 371 are meant to help pilots get rest from commercial type flying. Shame they stop or hinder us using our instructor ratings when we have that sought after airline job.
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You are meant to have the AOC holders permission to instruct on your days off. I know lots of people that don't have permission but still instruct.
The rules in CAP 371 are meant to help pilots get rest from commercial type flying. Shame they stop or hinder us using our instructor ratings when we have that sought after airline job.
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In Canada all flying you do -- instruction, personal, commercial, commuting -- counts towards duty times and flight duty times. So whether you spend your day off flying up country to visit your mother, or doing a few loops in the practice area, it can still duty you out. If you have non-flying duties as well, your duty day still starts when you first report for duty, and ends when you stop the engine at the end of the final flight.
