Bac 1-11

[maxdrypower]

Troops , Now I may be wrong on this , but I am sure there was a documentary some years ago featuring ETPS . During this documentary they showed a 1-11 doing some rather daft things . Does anyone have a link to this on T'internet if its even on here , and indeed if my memory is serving me correctly , I may have been dreaming it

[GGR]

Test Pilot

I remember there was a documentary series, six episodes I think, entitled Test Pilot on BBC 2 ? There was also a book released at the same time of the same name. Each week it featured two or three of the ETPS a/c types being put through their paces by the trainee Test Pilots. Hope this jogs your memory as I reckon you will be lucky to find any internet footage??

The book by Brian Johnson published by BBC books ISBN 0 563 20502 4 in 1986. Hope this helps.

GGR

[maxdrypower]

Have managed to find quite a bit on you tube but none of the 1-11 . It was specifically that I was after , or any other footage of a high T tail aircraft in a deep stall

[pulse1]

I've got the series on video somewhere. The problem is that its on Betamax and I can't play it.

[Dan D'air]

Pulse 1, Check your PM's.

Cheers, DD.

[Newforest2]

On a slight thread drift, anyone know if the American 1-11 test bed aircraft is still with FR at Bournemouth?

[billynospares]

I believe Northrop Grummans 1-11 is still at bournemouth but could be wrong. You wont find any footage of 1-11 in a deep stall because if you do it you will die. Stick shaker and pusher wont allow it anyway including ETPS 1-11

[maxdrypower]

I thought that might be the case , but also thought it may well have been done perhaps with use if a chute or something . Not to worry . To answer New Forest , there was a 1-11 at FR yesterday White with a green symbol on the tail , not sure if its the same one

[ZeBedie]

BAe had a 200 series with a tail chute which was still being used as a comms aircraft in the 80's and still carrying the mod.

[billynospares]

xx105 did it with a tail chute but also crashed whilst doing it on salisbury plane. was recovered and repaired and flew up till a few years ago. it is now part of the boscombe down aviation collection

[Newforest2]

Billy,

The test plane is N162W and it didn't look green in the last photo I saw in 2007 but then how many 1-11's would be at Hurn now?

If you saw the nose, it should look like Pinochio.

I suspect it might be involved in the new refuelling contract for the US.

[welkyboy]

Whilst on the ground at Old Sarum yesterday, I saw the ETPS Bae 1-11 doing circuits at Boscombe Down, so it's still active!!

[ICT_SLB]

The original RAE 1-11s were 400 & 200 series IIRC - I worked on both the Avionics test one (Type AK/D?) and the BLEU one (an ex-BUA Type AC which, perversly, was rumoured to fly 3 degrees off unles it was rigged offset - the product of a heavy landing). The current EPTS one is a 500 series I beleive and it's still active - the last item in "Flight" was as a stand-in UAV. There is a 1-11 group on yahoo that sometimes has almost minute by minute updates on movements in & around Hurn.

Rumors on this side of the pond is that the N-G fleet will be replaced soon by other T-tailed aircraft with CF34 engines.

[billynospares]

ETPS fly a 475 FU variant ZE432 also there is ZH763 a 539 GL and ze433 another 475 FU all still in service as test beds

[Farrell]

Go to this link here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2vzsZCpw2k

and scroll down to the comments that people make.

There's a guy there with the whole series on DVD and apparently he can arrange a copy for you.

I have had the pleasure of being in the one of the RAFO 1-11's here in Oman.....so beautiful and imaculately maintained flightdeck!

[m5dnd]

"BAe had a 200 series with a tail chute which was still being used as a comms aircraft in the 80's and still carrying the mod."

ZeBedie,
Think You must be thinking of G-ASYD which was the prototype 400series etc.. and is now at Brooklands Museum. We have the Anti-stall / Anti-spin rig and parachute but cannot refit due to missing fittings sadly.

Cheers
M5DND

[Le Tirer]

The test plane is N162W and it didn't look green in the last photo I saw in 2007 but then how many 1-11's would be at Hurn now?

It's actually N164W and it departed Hurn on the 29/3 for Keflavik and presumably back to The States.

The 1-11 currently at Hurn is the Omani one (553). The flag on the tail does have a bit of green on it but is more red!

LT

[Newforest2]

Thanks for the correction LT! Interesting that Grumman have three 1-11 test beds, N162W (087), N164W (090) and N161NG (067).

[ICT_SLB]

NF2,
The 3 1-11s are used by Northrop-Grumman (N-G) as radar test beds - rumor is that, owing to fuel costs & noise, they will be replaced soon.

[ZeBedie]

ZeBedie,
Think You must be thinking of G-ASYD

Yes, when I last saw it, at Warton, it was white with red stripes. I think the rear airstairs were permanently disabled because of the mod. But it was still carrying pax.