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Grob Aerospace
My company want me to go to Grob Aerospace as an FTI Engineer, I would like to hear more over Grob, I normally work on flight test on Tankers, can anybody give me more information on Grob

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From: Germany
Have a look at :
http://www.grob-aerospace.net/
http://www.grob-aerospace.net/
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From: Canberra Australia
What is an FTI Engineer?
Do you mean an FTE?
The usual acronyms in flight testing are TP and FTE and perhaps recognition of Flight Test Observers as FTOs although I think the latter have been replaced by technology.
Sorry I cannot help with Grob.
Do you mean an FTE?
The usual acronyms in flight testing are TP and FTE and perhaps recognition of Flight Test Observers as FTOs although I think the latter have been replaced by technology.
Sorry I cannot help with Grob.
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From: Wichita, USA
Hi Arthur,
I would imagine that your company want you to go over and instrument the Grob Spn - it's Grobs entry to the VLJ arena. They're a relatively successful Part 23 manufacturer based in Tussenheim-Mattsies in Germany. Normally they manufacture gliders and light trainers, they're now trying to branch out into VLJ's. The Spn is a composite airframe twin jet. The second prototype crashed last year after a probable encounter with elevator flutter.
I would imagine that your company want you to go over and instrument the Grob Spn - it's Grobs entry to the VLJ arena. They're a relatively successful Part 23 manufacturer based in Tussenheim-Mattsies in Germany. Normally they manufacture gliders and light trainers, they're now trying to branch out into VLJ's. The Spn is a composite airframe twin jet. The second prototype crashed last year after a probable encounter with elevator flutter.
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FTIE?
What is an FTI Engineer?
The engineer that installs and sometimes makes the intsrumentation required to record the results of the different tests performed on the aircraft.
Bernt

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From: La Belle Province
If you're considering Grob, this item on AINonline today may be of interest, in case you missed it ....
Bombardier Partners with Grob on Composite Learjet
In October, after announcing that it planned to offer a next-generation Learjet for the midsize jet market, Bombardier said that it considered the new Learjet NXT jet a “staged launch” and planned to reveal more details this year. This morning the OEM revealed that the NXT is now called the Learjet 85, that the airframe will be all-composite and that Grob Aerospace will develop the jet’s primary and secondary structure and build the first three prototypes.
Bombardier’s move will place it at the leading edge of business jet design; the Learjet 85 will be the first Part 25 business jet with all-composite structure (the Hawker 4000 has a composite fuselage but metal wings) as well as the company’s first foray into composite airplanes. Learjet designers are already working at Grob’s Tussenhausen-Mattsies facility in Germany, where the structures for the three prototypes will be built.
Late last year, Bombardier told AIN that the new jet will likely be priced in the ballpark of Cessna’s $16.129 million Sovereign and that buyers had signed letters of intent for 65 copies of the new midsize Learjet. Specs include a 675-cu-ft, eight-passenger stand-up cabin, 3,000-nm range and Mach 0.82 high-speed cruise.
In October, after announcing that it planned to offer a next-generation Learjet for the midsize jet market, Bombardier said that it considered the new Learjet NXT jet a “staged launch” and planned to reveal more details this year. This morning the OEM revealed that the NXT is now called the Learjet 85, that the airframe will be all-composite and that Grob Aerospace will develop the jet’s primary and secondary structure and build the first three prototypes.
Bombardier’s move will place it at the leading edge of business jet design; the Learjet 85 will be the first Part 25 business jet with all-composite structure (the Hawker 4000 has a composite fuselage but metal wings) as well as the company’s first foray into composite airplanes. Learjet designers are already working at Grob’s Tussenhausen-Mattsies facility in Germany, where the structures for the three prototypes will be built.
Late last year, Bombardier told AIN that the new jet will likely be priced in the ballpark of Cessna’s $16.129 million Sovereign and that buyers had signed letters of intent for 65 copies of the new midsize Learjet. Specs include a 675-cu-ft, eight-passenger stand-up cabin, 3,000-nm range and Mach 0.82 high-speed cruise.

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yes its over 10,000 lbs which is the weight criteria accepted as VLJ territory but it will be certified as SPIFR - which is where the VLJ assumption might be coming from -
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Perhaps. But I've never heard of a Citation CJ3 referred to as a VLJ.
Grob is a young company (new owners), fast paced, and interesting, from what I hear. Apparently the new owners are not shy about investing big money into the company and its programs.
If the G180 delivers on its promisses, it will be a winner.
But, I'm a rotorhead. What do I know?
Grob is a young company (new owners), fast paced, and interesting, from what I hear. Apparently the new owners are not shy about investing big money into the company and its programs.
If the G180 delivers on its promisses, it will be a winner.
But, I'm a rotorhead. What do I know?
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From: Switzerland
Before I went to the test pilot school I had the chance to visit Grob and hang around there for a couple of days. I had a very good impression of this company. Most of the people of the FT department are very experienced people. Some of the people there used to work for Fairchild Dornier and they were involved in the test program of the DO-328 jet and turboprop. The CFTE used to be instructor at a test pilot school and as far as I know before he came to Grob he was working for Cessna. If you happen to work for them, I'm sure you will like it.







