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Old 13th Nov 2004, 09:20
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Angel airworthiness/post maintenence test flights

Are pilots who fly "Airworthiness Certification" and or PMFT(post maintenece flight test) required to be test pilots ? Or do they have do undergo a certain type of training ?
Can someone can shed a light on the subject ?
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It's fairly rare that they are test pilots, as a general rule they are experienced line / squadron / private (occasionally) pilots on type who have - because there is a need for somebody - been given special training, typically half a day to a day in the civil world, in how to fly the post maintenance / annual air test.

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Generally in the larger civillian operators the C of A tests are done by training captains and the PMTFs will be done by line pilots for simpler tasks and training captains for more complex ones. In my company we designate individuals as qualified to do so. They undergo ground briefings on the various pitfalls awaiting them, the optimum methods to plan the flight and the pupose of the various test items. Normally we then carry out observed C of A flights to assess their competence to do them as P1.
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As a graduate test pilot member of a large helicopter operating company's design and flight test department, my authority to conduct airworthiness flight tests is legislated in the Company Maintenance Exposition, as is the case for training captains etc, as mentioned by 212man (or are you EC155man now?).
Operating in an independent capacity, I have a personal approval from the CAA: which to obtain normally requires a form filled in, a briefing and usually an observed AFTS with a member of the CAA Flight (test) Department. That's how it is in UK; same for fixed-wing I believe.

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I.S. I guess that will be M.P. then?

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Close, 212man, but not quite!
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Thanks to all of you guys for taking the time to reply to my querry.
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There is no requirement for certification in Europe yet. However, a draft NPA was issued by the JAA during the summer of 2004.

Some of us in our company, a provider of crews on such flights, have followed the NTPS' Technical Pilot Course that covers some basics of flight testing and includes upset training.

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For CofA or permit renewal air tests in the UK you need to be specifically approved by the CAA. For light aircraft this will require as a minimum 500 hours for singles or 1000 hours for twins and a briefing (in person) from the CAA flight department.

For big aeroplanes you must actually do a check flight with the CAA test pilot to get approval.

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http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/397/srg_fl...1-05102004.pdf
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