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flyingwombats 11th November 2008 00:44

Bristol Handling
 
Rumours circulating, Menzies taking over Easyjet handling at the end of January 09

WATABENCH 11th November 2008 06:55

I believe the above was confirmed yesterday (apologies if i've had wrong info). Hope that no Servisair staff suffer too much from the change, fingers crossed for you all, I imagine Menzies would take on most excess s-air staff. Will mean Servisair loseing 60% of it's BRS business. This rumour has been floating round for a couple of years and looks like it has come full circle.

santito 11th November 2008 12:48

Menzies were shocking last time I had to deal with them- rude unhelpful staff who wouldn't help me... This was in Madrid with EasyJet.

Do Menzies actually have any presence at Bristol at the moment? I thought not.?

WATABENCH 11th November 2008 14:35

No there are no other handling agents in BRS apart from OCS who just deal with PRM's and were given the contract in June, Servisair have had the monopoly there for years. BA used to have seperate check-in staff but the ramp was still handled by Servisair. This is a BIG change for BRS.

jetsetwilly 12th November 2008 19:16

MAD
 
Actually, it's Swissport-Menzies.

JSW

rememberbannockburn 14th November 2008 16:17

menzies aviation
 
total rubbish, i work for menzies in scotland, we are payed £7.94ph and on top of that we have a £190 performance bonus which we get most months and even if we do take station delays we dont lose all the bonus. brs crews have been desperate for menzies for a long time now, everytime they come up here they were begging us to set up down there, was on a brs turn last night and they were saying they cant wait, take it all u servisair people are scared of a little competition, a lot of our staff used to work for servisair up here and would never go back, so don't knock it till u have tried it. easyjet have never had it so good up here and that is why they have been changing to menzies everywhere over the last few years.

Goldilocks95 14th November 2008 17:26

personally I'm quite looking forward to going across to Menzies. I think it will create new opportunities and be a new way of looking at things. We will be our own team and although slightly concerned about pay i think things will turn out for the best. So I'm just being positive about everything. Servisair has been great for me-I've learnt things which will help me through my working life but im looking forward to learning more with Menzies!

Bus14 14th November 2008 17:59

For clarity;

BRS had 2 handling agents for many years - DanAir and Servisair. The present monopoly only came about when mergers further up the chain resulted in DanAir and Servisair becoming the same company.

Breaking the monopoly is a welcome move in my opinion, and long overdue.

Bus14
(@BRS since 1989)

tigger2k8 15th November 2008 14:52

i also work for menzies... the pay rate was £7.63 or .67 i cant remember, a recent pay rise now has it at £7.93.. the bonus is up to £220 now, with my station gaining £185 and £195 in the last 2 months there will also be a further pay rise of 4% next year... personally i enjoy my job and have no problems with menzies..

got a question for you guys who work for other firms that handle easyjet.. do you have to manually push and pull steps/belts into place? or are you allowed to drive them right in? just curious.. as we have to push and pull :{

tigger2k8 15th November 2008 20:37

ah thanks for the info, was wondering must be an easyjet thing.. makes me jealous seeing servisair and aviance guys drive them in on jet2, thomas cook, bmi baby etc but i heard theres a legislation coming on (hopefully not a rumor) that means they have to be motorised... sadly the only drive in belt we have is for aer lingus (to access hold 5 on the airbus)..

if anyone has any questions about menzies contracts just PM me, im part time though but ill check through my contract to find answers.. look at it this way, if it is menzies and u jump across, u can now watch casino royale and when it gets to the airport scene u can say, look theres a menzies logo i work for them.. :eek:

good luck guys:ok:

mzgoo 18th November 2008 13:41

Just a quick one, i work for Menzies @ LTN why does everyone seem to be so anti-menzies?

They arent bad to work for i've never had any problems.

People should stop moaning and give them a try. If you get TUPE across be grateful you have a job, theres many people around the country who have lost the job recently due the economic state the country is in.

speedbird_481_papa 19th November 2008 09:52

Here Here MZGOO I have been saying that to my fellow colleagues here at BRS since the news was announced. :D

We all were concerned as it is the same old story of we all don't like change. We should all be greatful like you say that we even have a job to go to at all.

I am now warming to the idea of working for Menzies now. From the comments of what other users have said about Menzies I really dont think that they will be bad at all to work for. All our jobs in FOH are certain and menzies are even advertising for more staff in all areas. Perhaps now is a good time to go for that despatch job that I have always wanted...:ok:

20-17 21st November 2008 12:15

Same sh1t different uniform.........

anotherthing 21st November 2008 16:26

Bristol Handling...
 
... bugger, thought I'd stumbled across a 'gentlemans thread' for a moment... I'll get me mac

dave23234 17th December 2008 15:11

Hi Guys,

I have just applied for the customer service supervisor position that closed on the 5th December and i still haven't heard anything just wondered if anyone knew how long i have to wait for a response or if i get one at all?

Many thanks

antonovman 17th December 2008 19:03

i had an interview on monday for turnaround/dispatcher
they say they dont know how many people will transfer from servisair so dont know how many other they need to employ
pay is very low i thought

BRS_flyer 17th December 2008 19:19

Stand and gate allocation will be taken in house from at the same time as Menzies arrive. Will be handled by my former colegues in the terminal control centre.

speedbird_481_papa 17th December 2008 19:37

Well it seems to be one story against another here at BRS. The impression I have been given is that Servisair has released all the info accross about who is being TUPEd accross to Menzies.

But of course, Menzies says otherwise. :ugh:

So we probably won't know anything for certain untill the 20th January, the day before the transfer.

And Antonovman, I don't know why Menzies are saying that? They already know how many despatchers/turn-around co-ordinators are being TUPEd accross from Servisair, and I have been told to contact Menzies this week as that may be a position i to am interested in.

Overall I get the feeling that Menzies don't really know exactly what is happening. It sounds to me 6 of one and half a dozen of another. So, even though it is not long left, time will tell.

But really as ive been saying, sit tight and wait to see exactly what happens with regards to all companies and parties involved.

So I think personally, to those who have applied to Menzies, sit tight. There is a lot that is having to be done behind the scenes and if anyone hasn't heard anything back, I am sure it is not intentional.

As far as pay is concerned, it is all basic. No shift allowance, no sick pay and no overtime rate. Hours are TBC but it will be a 6 on, 3 off pattern, 3 earlies 3 lates. But their terms of contract are basic. So a flat rate that may be say £8 ph but that would be it. Overtime is at the basic rate and thats it.:{

So not trying to put people off, but this is what Menzies have told us if we were to transfer onto one of their contracts.

BRS Flyer, does that mean the control centre will allocate stands? Or down to Ops aka ASU? Cause how are the airport authority themselves going to know where to place each aircraft? Like the WOWs are a headache and need to be parked next to eachother because of the tansfer and transit pax

speedbird_481_papa 18th December 2008 01:51

FMC are you to being TUPEd accross? I to have heard that to many people were TUPEd accross from servisair. But alas EZY FOH guys were told that unless we accept the TUPE agreement, we wud have to resign from Servisair. :confused:

123jobsearcher123 18th December 2008 07:11

Menzies pay 8.33p/h as a flat rate but if they are tight for staff they generally will pay you extra hours so really overtime generally works out at time and half you just have to barter haha

BRS_flyer 18th December 2008 08:16

It will be the control centre, but they probably will have to communicating with ASU far more than in the past. Even before I left most of the team were pretty familiar with stand planning issues and requirements such as the WOW's as well as walkway and coach utilisation so it will probably be a fairly smooth transition, as long as they are on the ball!

speedbird_481_papa 18th December 2008 23:39

Tis gonna be interesting to see how it is all allocated then. I think it will be manic initially until it all irons out. And also who who would we call to be calling it off blocks and what DLA reason to put in? Its gonna be interesting time.:ugh:

But how much of a leaniency is there for saying about pos what can go on what stand? Or will it be Airport Ops final word? I can see this not going to well initially :ouch:

airvanman 23rd December 2008 14:05

I have seen all the equipment arriving. But I have not seen any de-icing lorrys yet! Space will be tight on the apron along with the admin space etc. We all need more room.

Good luck you new 'uns and ex S/air staff.

stupid stupid boy 23rd December 2008 17:17

Will servisair be now getting rid of excess kit? Scrap value has fallen a great deal rescently!

stupid stupid boy 23rd December 2008 21:33

Look! Just because everything is in chaos and nobody knows what the !!!! is going on doesnt mean that its me in charge.

HAPPY XMAS TO ALL, MAY THE NEW YEAR BE A GOOD ONE!

speedbird_481_papa 13th January 2009 04:35

Thanks Airnavman I think we will need it!

Ive heard 2 conflicting reports about the de-icing.

1. Its staying with Servisair so they will do it

2. I have heard this from a lot more reliable source that Airline Services from March have been awarded the contract. The same company that changes seat covers, refils the magazines etc


Also, latest rumours flying round now is that OCS have been awarded the coach-driving contract from march as well :mad:

Goldilocks95 15th January 2009 18:15


UP THE RYANAIR!!! Down with the Orange TW*TS nice to see only 18 easyjet movements allday Tuesday just a few canx flights bugger Damm Shame.UP the Ryanair!!!
excuse me? Tuesdays are the off day-normal day is more like 40 outbound flights.....oh and Gareth:oh: sorry Speedbird where did you hear that rumour about coaching? Ive not heard it....pretty sure there will be no problem with Servisair doing the coaching-hope it dosnt go to OCS....the 3 minute wait for coaches would turn into 30 if its anything like the wait for the ambulift!!!:ugh:

Goldilocks95 16th January 2009 04:44

Yeah I know about the car park passes-very annoying! We have another week to go until we start with Menzies and Servisair dont seem to think we work for them any more!

Goldilocks95 16th January 2009 19:35

Im pax- 5 days, its going fast!

Gee08 17th January 2009 13:39

the start-up will go well as menzies draft staff in from other stations to help they always throw money at start up tcx was only start up that went boobs up menzies management is poor and very clickey however the people to work with are always tremendous yeah the conditions are crap but menzies have always said this is it deal with it don't like it dont work for us. i am one who is glad alba ground handling never offerred me a job when i applied as menzies phoned a few weeks later to give me one. ezy crew like menzies as menzies always prioritise ezy 9 times out of 10 menzies have a full team on stand waiting for aircrafts coming on stand between gla edi an bfs. i will not be in brs due to fact i will be covering a dispatcher who is going to brs's shifts.

speedbird_481_papa 17th January 2009 17:33

shouldn't be any different to what it currently is. I to found it strange our car park passes didnt work as technically aren't we all still Circusair until 2359 on Weds?:sad:

speedbird_481_papa 17th January 2009 17:35

well time will tell. It should't really be any different to what it is now.

And about the car park passes, why did Circusair disable them? As arent we technically still Circusair for another week? :ugh:

Donald-Duck 18th January 2009 15:50

Handling
 
BRS Control Center cant allocate arrival belts for flights so how are they gonna allocate stands?

speedbird_481_papa 18th January 2009 19:32

With great difficulty, Donald!

a while back ASU at Bristol was re-named OPS. Coincidental if u ask me :suspect: and they will be responsible for stand allocation, feeding the information back to the control centre so as they can allocate the gates.

I am working early on Thurs morn and it will be honestly bedlam and I really dont know how it will all pan out.

Many a call to the control centre, me thinks :ugh:

Gee08 18th January 2009 22:20

yea they will go back to there own stations but there will be enough staff however if ezy is only contract for menzies life wont be hard so ramp guys enjoy it while you's can if u's aquire more contracts then it resorts to ur circusair days...understaffed and getting pumped so enjoy the easylife of only handling ezy while u can.overall menzies isnt bad to work for. always take a not of ur overtime u do working for menzies but. like any other company they will kp everypenny they can.

airvanman 19th January 2009 03:38

I had a chat with a couple of guys from Airline Services last night. They are saying they have not been told anything but they are geared up for a exrta bigger rig, and storing tanks at short notice if they get the contact. Makes you wonder if Menzies, OCS? or even Servisair will be doing it for the rest of the season?

Anyway the 21st should be intresting for all?

Donald-Duck 21st January 2009 12:30

Anyway i hope all menzies staff are de-iced trained as hardly any of the servisair staff are so they will have their wok cut out.

9inchjock 21st January 2009 19:28

MENZIES - All the gear and no Idea!!!!!!:confused:

Gee08 22nd January 2009 12:48

airline services will ave the contract for de-iceing as menzies bought 2 de-iceing rigs in edi few years back to be told airline services already have a contract in-line to do de-icing.

groundhogbhx 22nd January 2009 19:56

How did the first day go?? Had the NCL flight drop in to BHX for a splash, offload a few, and dash due to this mornings fog.


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