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yankee charlie 20th Jul 2002 21:03

Ezy Crewing, Working 12 hrs without break
 
:mad:

At the moment Crewing Officer is working 12hrs shift and sometimes longer hours without break. Crew call us for info but unfortunately, we cannot help it`s such a big mess. We are only 2 on duty to manage the following Base LGW,LPL, LTN, EDI, GLA, BFS, GVA.

I have to say morale is really low.


Please, Please, Please management help us out...........

VIKING9 20th Jul 2002 21:23

Management help !! You do indeed need help but will you get it :rolleyes: Do other airlines treat their ground staff like dogs? Be interested to hear. I personally don't get breaks during 12 hr shifts, but with 3 aircraft I'm hardly in a position to complain - or am I ?

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

FOMere2eternity 20th Jul 2002 21:44

If only...

I've done a number of 36hr shifts without a break and our company puts people on standby duty for months on end...

the name ?

...starts with Royal, ends in Force

boxjockey99 21st Jul 2002 01:03

12hr shifts are the rostered norm for our ops staff, granted crewing don't do the 12hr stints but the ops staff are 7-7 24/7 365 etc. As long as you aren't doing too many 12hr shifts in a row I don't see the problem , we do 2 days, 2 nights and then 4 off.

Enjoy

Box

Mr Angry from Purley 21st Jul 2002 09:24

Box J 99

Your missing the point. What the YC is saying is there are 2 of them working flat out for 12+ hours, without a proper break.
Your talking dealing with a lot of crew and a lot of problems.
2 Staff is not enough to deal with EZY's operations. Might be ok for 2 Ops Staff to cope but not Crewing...

YC - Good luck

:mad: :mad:

canberra 21st Jul 2002 15:16

different air force
 
fomere2eternity i must have been in a different air force to you! the longest shift i ever did was 15 hours. though when i was on the harrier force i slept in the ops wagon and often got woken in the wee small hours, but 36 hours on duty, bit excessive wouldnt u say? and as for 12 hours without a break well whos faults that? i dont think stelios expects u to die for him so take breaks, if people get annoyed with you for doing do well tell them why. why do airlines have this mania for 12 hour shifts?

Chilli Monster 21st Jul 2002 16:23

canb

Ahh - those delightful nights under the stars in the FWOC wagon. Never did get the hang of sleeping on those b****y chairs :D

CM

EAZYCHICK 21st Jul 2002 19:07

yes 12 hours may be the norm in the aviation industry but when you are short staffed it is almost impossible to take a break of any kind, because if you do you come back to twice the work, having lost the plot to all the disruption thats happened in your absence. Can't see the situation improving until the go-merger when the new structure will give an indication as to how much man power/resource is required. Hopefully then there'll be a new shift pattern, preferably 8 hours with enough experienced staff to manage the fast expanding fleet..... Lets hope there'll be light at the end of the tunnel yankee charlie.

FOMere2eternity 21st Jul 2002 19:52

...was that a hint there might be jobs !

HELP - I'm here in the tower with the mask on !

:confused:

VP8 21st Jul 2002 20:52

VP8
 
Could be!!!

Air Foyle Heavylift have just lost one of the ops guys on the AN124 side.....

VEEPS;)

VIKING9 21st Jul 2002 22:07

Hey Veeps, has the salary dropped yet again to below £17k ;)

VP8 21st Jul 2002 22:20

Hey Viking long time no here.

Nah on the paydrop although there is a disparity between various bods which needs seeing to or there may be a lot more vacancies!!

Watch this space.

VEEPS ;)

walla 21st Jul 2002 23:08

winge winge winge winge winge

I dont think morale is at an all time low at ezy crewing, okay we are under staffed and under pressure but hey welcome to aviation.

Not taking a break on a 12 hour shift is your own fault not the management.
Okay so you may come back to more problems, however if you dont do it the management will not listen.

As for changing from 12h shift pattern to 8h shift pattern no thanks, i like my days off.

mmm jc who could you be ?:D :p :D :p

OPS GIMP 21st Jul 2002 23:11

INTERESTING POST

I AM CURIOUS ABOUT
HOW MANY CREWING CONTROLLERS PER CREW MEMBERS ?

I CURRENTLY WORK FOR A CHARTER AIRLINE AND WE CONTROL JUST OVER 350 CREW PER 1 CONTOLLER ON SHIFT. IN THE MIDDLE OF A VERY BUSY SUMMER SEASON. OOPS FORGOT TO SAY ON WRITTEN ROSTERS. SO 12 HOUR+ SHIFTS A NORM WITHOUT BREAKS.
WHATS STAFF LEVELS LIKE IN YOUR AIRLINE?
:eek:

VIKING9 21st Jul 2002 23:18

OPS GIMP So, who do you work for then :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Hey Walla, who the hell is No Sig :cool:

ezydruid 21st Jul 2002 23:22

Walla me'ol

Stop talking out'a what u ought to be sitting on.:D

Morale's lower than a rattlesnake's bits right now,
and has been for some time.
Not sure whether the merger will improve things,
but it sure as hell can't get any worse
(OR CAN IT??);)

As for the "don't worry about taking breaks, just do it" attitude,
fully agree.

Problem is, to quote the immortal bard,

"It's hard to look for repellant when yr up to yr bits in alligators!"

Plus the fact that the pressure exerted from various heights on those who DO take breaks makes everyone feel kinda guilty.

Always remember "Slice a vein, and they'll want an armful"

OPS GIMP 21st Jul 2002 23:40

COUPLE OF HINTS IN MY POST

CHARTER AIRLINE AND BOURNEMOUTH

ezydruid 21st Jul 2002 23:42

Hey Ops Gimp.

Was yr grandad Merlin???:D

VIKING9 21st Jul 2002 23:44

Laugh - I nearly cried :D

Hey Walla, are you on the same planet as the rest or are they all stressed out and you ain't :o

3 Off The Tee 22nd Jul 2002 00:30

Well Said Walla
 
Over here in the Land in the Sand, it's 12 hour shifts too,
2day, 2nights & 4 days off rotation.

I can't remember of ever having a proper break but
you simply can't beat having 4 days off.

Work hard, play hard & there's no better place than right here
if any of you guys want a new challenge?

Hope things improve for you EZY guys !

Cheers 3 Off The Tee :rolleyes:


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