Menzies only lost the contract at EMA because of all the finance issues at MAN to do with damaged aircrafts etc, to keep the contract menzies told TCX that they will terminate all contracts and basically TCX pulled the plug and terminated the contract at EMA aswell. SO really the blame goes down to the baggage handlers at MAN

123jobsearcher123 that is the biggest load of bulls**t I have ever heard....

Exactly how many A/C have TCX had damaged by their handling agents in Man?? I will answer that for you.......NONE!!!!!!!

"to keep the contract menzies told TCX that they will terminate all contracts and basically TCX pulled the plug and terminated the contract at EMA aswell" Can you say that in English please, because you make no sense whatsoever!!!!!:ugh:

The reason Menzies pulled the plug on TCX was purely a financial one, and as happens year in year out the contract went to the lowest bidder no matter what service they recieve!

They dmamaged no aircraft? Well what happened to the cargo doors twice in October? I believe the loaders jammed something in them on 2 seperate occassions? Correct me if i'm wrong. As for the excellent handling when the contract was first taken on they had only one or two dispatchers trained, i know they had the most amount of warning from manchester airport that any handling agent has had and I also know (as I have witnessed on MANY occassions) that the check-in/ground staff have terrible customer service skills and are completely unprofessional.

Jen Jen "Well what happened to the cargo doors twice in October?" what about them??? No reported A/C damage since Menzies took the contract on!!!!

As for only 1 or 2 trained dispatchers, the majority of Menzies 20+ dispatchers came from MYT, so again you are wrong!

All check in staff Tupe'd from MYT and SAS so they must have always been crap!

Thank you G-STAW.

I knew this was the case. Menzies have been a shambles ever since they took over handling of TCX. I know for a fact that they damaged a cargo door as my mum came off the flight and was waiting for her bag for nearly 3 hours so I called menzies op's and they told me what had happened.
And as for all the dispatchers coming across from MYT, I know this but I also know that there was hardly anyone bridge trained as I know people working as a dispatcher for menzies and they told me.

well someone is telling lies then as some are saying menzies terminated it for financial reasons and some are saying TCX terminated it...

any press releases?

Good riddance, after a torrid summer I for one am happy to see the back of Menzies....

As far as i am aware, tcx have been happy and menzies did bring the contract to an end. A price was agreed for a certain number of flights between the 2 companys, this number of flights was exceeded meaning tcx owed menzies cash to the tune of £1 million +. TCX said they owed nowt therefore menzies told them where to go. Hence no 90 day notice and why servisair are taking contract over so soon. Under no circumstances is this staff related, the menzies guys and girls have done a cracking job with the tcx contract which is why a good number of them are being TUPE'D over to servisair to carry working on the TCX contract. Menzies will continue to operate at MAN, and without the headache of a greedy airline hanging over their shoulders.

Im sure i remember a Menzies dispatcher driving an airbridge into a Thomas Cook Aircraft this year, possibly the A330?

IF this in fact happened there are a number of reasons that it could have been other than incompetence on the part of the dispatcher operating the airbridge. Bridges at MAN (especially those on B and C Piers) are notoriously shoddy to begin with so before you go throwing stones, get your facts straight.

Anyone know if Servisair will be taking summer temps on at MAN in time for the start of the TCX contract?

Thanks

tcx damage
 

NO one drove into the aircraft it's just that the HEAD SET guy didn't see that there was still a airbridge still on the aircraft and HE gave the pushback driver the signal to push which did damage to the front door i should know i was there :ok:

Menzies, at EMA, started going downhill on the day that they put that clown, Gordon, in charge !@!

is that the same gorden whocame to MAN?

:ugh:The one and the same ! :ugh:

jet2
 

Any one know who hase the jet 2 contract yet:confused:

Jet 2
 

Apparently it will be announced within the next 2 weeks.

Killigrew,

Greetings -If it's the same Gordon I'm thinking of, I'm interested to know why the bad feelings exist?

C o' G

Anybody know the conditions of the TUPE?? Are the mezies guys going to servisair staying on their menzies contracts or will they be given a servisair contract?? Will their shift patterns remain the same?? will they be used soley to work on the tommy cook contract?? Will their skills be recognised?? Whats the hourly rate at servisair these days??

jet 2
 

thot the jet 2 contract was staying where it was?

jet2 contract
 

just to end the rumours, gate aviation will be the new handling agent from 01 march 2009.:ok:

TUPE
 

i dont see how you can enforce tupe when tcx are not an handling agent?menzies lost the the contract and another agent has won it..would you tupe workers if jet 2 or easyjet moved somewhere else..if menzies lads went to servisair they would be working on everything not just tcx

THEGRAFTER;
TUPE works to protect staff when a company they work for looses a major contract or customer. Particularly in the situations handling agents face.
In this case, if the TCX was over 60% of the Menzies workload, they would find they dont need to keep the staff. The new supplier (Servisair in this case) would need extra manpower. Staff may loose out on terms and conditions and continuity of service had they had to leave and re-apply for new jobs, (through no fault of their own). TUPE agreements are built to protect these staff for a minimum period before any changes can be made to their working contracts.

And YES, you would have TUPE if EZY or Jet2 moved. Small operators who have say one flight a day would not involve a TUPE agreement.

The exact terms of TUPE will have to be determined by the two companies. (Servisair and Menzies). There shouldnt be any major changes just a different uniform and perhaps in some cases a roster pattern change to accomodate staff into existing operations. Of course what happens further down the line is down to speculation!

When Meznies took over the STAR contracts at LHR, so far no changes. However if someone is due for promotion, they will inevitably end up on Menzies terms and conditions which would be lower (even if more ££).

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Jet2 contract,

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If this is true, another great move by jet2, i remember when menzies took over... the polish invasion....:ugh:
I know Flight Support and Aviance are still in for the contract and, as yet, have not heard either way. :rolleyes:

menzies did not lose the contract menzies are the worlds 3rd biggest ground handlers in the world and the worlds most profitable menzies asked thomas cook to pay up and they refused to pay the money menzies is asking for so menzies gave 90 day notice and that was it. menzies made a balls up with contracts at start-up they gave every new start a permanant contract instead of a 6 month probation so they will need to tupe alot of the staff or be way over staffed.

All new starters were not given a permanent contracts at all, there were a lot on temp contracts, who finished at the end of october plus a load of agency staff were used to deal with the tcx contract. I believe around 40 guys have been tupe'd over to servisair and as far as i can gather everyone of them is looking forward to getting away from menzies and starting with servisair. Also i've been made aware that menzies have made a right clanger and tupe'd to many guys, leaving them short for there own operations at MAN, They may be better at other stations around the world but i'm afraid to say at MAN they come across as an un-professional company.

i know for a fact there were 70 new starts last summer given permanant contracts by mistake as i was there when the girls were trying to rectify it and sent the new 6 month contracts down. also they were a good company in man before thomas cook and i expect it to return to the way it was before but when i was in man last summer. there was lots of glitches at start-up e.g. told the polish workers to hand temp id's at the end when they run out...at the end of the first classroom training a handful handed them in and id centre happily took them lol. it was too big an operation and menzies weren't prepared enough to handle it so its prob a favour that tcx never paid up.gd luck to all ground handling comoanys for the summer.and people stop slating ground handling companys cause a majority of people who slate menzies end up working for them.

Whoops

I see that the wonderful servisair have crashed an air-bridge into a TCX A330 causing extensive damage and rendering the aircraft out of service for what has been reported to be a considerable length of time. Menzies never did that!!!!!! :D

Would be interested to hear it that rumour was true. I have bridged quite a few 330s at MAN and can see how it would easily be done.

Menzies
 

No They Just Left An Air-bridge On One When They Pushed Back One:d