D-ABBA
 

I May Have Let My English Vocabulary Dwindle Some What Lately As I Am Learning Polish.thats Where The Future Is:d

I hope the employees of Servisair don't fall into the trap of a low pay increase with all this gloom and doom about,what Servisair management will not tell you is what they have in the pipe line for next year.
Having a low pay increase or agree to have no increase will not save jobs. I think 5% or 6% is about right if you consider the cost of living increases in the last year ie mortgage rates ,petrol,and weekly shopping bill, Gas ,Elec to rise early in the New Year by 10% due to cost of oil we also know that your Council tax will rise by over the rate of inflation.
Go for fair increase because the company could not care less about you or your family when it comes down to it, being loyal and working hard counts for nothing if they have get rid of people.
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At the risk of not knowing what I'm talking about,what is so wrong with 5%? If you take rpi plus a VERY modest bit on top you have got to be getting to that figure?YES/NO.Please feel free to enlighten this poor dim baggage handler!!!!

SAT 1
 

Why Have A Pay Rise Just Ask For Double Time On Sundays And A New Hoover .:d

Got a minute..

Any concrete news on new airlines we have???? or trying to get?????

As for pay increase, you have the right idea sat 1, 5% is a good figure to go for, but see it being very hard to achieve.
who knows our rep might be wearing his lucky socks....:ok:

sat 1 - i thought you would have said something along the lines as...
5% + a steak and kiddney pie.....:E

we all have to stick together......

Lone Chock
 

Come on guys its seems to have gone a bit quiet all of asudden. Lets have some more of that lovely gossip bout servisair ANYONE! :D

Servisair Stn
 

Its all gotta go.
Send a e-mail to Manchester HQ thats sure way to find yourself on to top of the redundancy list.

Wozzel
Its not the Union that is weak ,a Union is only as strong as its members and we know they have not got any b:mad:s ask them why the did nothing when Servisair sacked their Shop Steward for one mistake bet they wish he was still there now.

Flexible rosters 6 on 3 off is on the way and no pay increase and a tin of sweets on Christmas Day.

Lets all stick together except Cargo we alright jack.

As a union we have no-one to blame except US.Very rarely do we act as a union ie unite together,one voice.Cargo have their agenda,the undercroft are frightened to wipe their own backsides incase they are threatened with rosta changes,and ramp(pax a/c) argue between 4/2 and 5/3,always have,always will.Management just sit back and laugh at us and who can blame them?

Once the pay talks are done and dusted watch the announcements of new contracts being won(with some lost ones coming back as well)
Look out swissport(EZY) you are the ones who should be worried.Lets face it,its common knowledge that AA have had enough of you.TK and cyprus are feeling the same and what about the rumours of Norwegian?
Next it will be germanwings.What a slippery slope you're on!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did I forget to mention....................


I LOVE MY JOB!!!!!!!
the future is blue.........................

Why??????????????????

Servisair Stansted
 

Sat 1
A lot of what you say i agree with at least when a certain Shop Steward was there you new he would do his best to fight for the members and try and keep the members together and management did not do as like as they do now,has anyone at Servisair got any b:mad:s:confused:.
What have we got now a Shop Steward who can't make his mind up which side he's on and you all voted him in.( like turkeys voting for Christmas)
Have the members at Servisair got a backbone i think we are about to find out!!!
Germanwings would like to go Aviance or to Servisair who would do it for nothing as its the only way Servisair are going to win a contract.
The Airlines will be aware there could Union problems with the pay talks on going so are unlikely to sign up to new contract until settled.:(

Servisair Stn
 

stn ladooo
Too late for that you had your chance.

D-ABAA
Because Management respected him,i am afraid we will pay the price of not supporting him when he needed it.

his good with steps though.:D

Tgwu Stn
 

Thats rite mate the union is only as strong as the workers and at this point we have no one with balls.even the ramps hard man did f:mad:k all to help his mate when he f:mad:ed up.AB was all for the workers till u wanted overtime then he showed his true colours;

Past tence guys lets move on.Think ABs happy where he is, hopefully if he f :mad: s up there they wont dump him as quickly as servisair did LC

AB
 

lets hope his career at aviance is a STEP in the rite direction:D

Get the attitude that everybody thinks their perfect n what they do eachday n everyway but n all honesty their fooling themselves were all just a digit n servisairs big timespace.Soon as its time to go were gone believe me :{LC

Lets carry on as always :ugh: its what servisair do nothins gona change :D

sat 1
 

Reading few the threads on this subject you really do talk some c:mad:! Im sure you said back in the summer that EZY were all but over with swissport and what came of that. I think you went pretty quiete after what turned out to be a certainty by your books never happened. And how you can say its common knowledge that AA are not happy with swissport, how? why? who exactly? After all the AA has been on time or early pretty much everyday except for a few occasions and none of which are swissport related. Again about TK, argue your case instead of making all these sweeping statements.

Ok and another point if swissport does lose all these contracts which you say is going to happen, does servisair have enough staff to cope with that kind off schedule and adhere to the standards set by the airlines, i think not, if im wrong tell me how. For once stop making up these stories and back them up with evidence!! :eek:

And before you post back what i dont want to hear is ' well i know someone thats in a position to know' or 'i have heard' as this is not evidence. If you have servisair management telling you that EZY are in talks and hang on as things will get better then i might believe you.

I know this is a rumour network however you seem to have the same story everytime and nothing ever comes of it which is why it would be best if you only posting rumours that MIGHT ACTUALLY HAPPEN!!

May it aslo be a little case of jealousy that your not working for the better handling agent :p:p:ok:

xxx5572
 

hi, xxx ,long time no hear,ok lets see if I can respond to your many points:
EZY have not been happy with swissport for some considerable time but have been unable to rectify the problem YET. The other handling agents have not shown the desired interest in the product,however,Menzies are NEVER far away,they are hungry for work anywhere--fact.
With regard to AA I stand by what I said and time WILL tell.
The same is true re TK,and that DID come from on high.
As for servisair having enough staff to cope with all the potential work,that has to be the dumbest comment ever!! What company would have that amount of slack manpower!!!! Please,come back down to earth.
I dont have the ear of servisair management and if I did I certainly would'nt take everything said as gospel.
As for this site being a rumour network------WELL DONE!!!! you got summit rite(wozzel) As for jealousy,I am on record as saying.......................I LUV MY JOB and the future
IS BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

OK YOU LOT,WANT SOME FACTS HERE WE GO. S/AIR HAVE BEEN APPROCHED BY GERMAN WINGS FACT,TRANSAVIA FACT, CYPRUS FACT, NORWEIGIAN FACT...S/AIR ARE IN THIS GAME TO MAKE MONEY UNLIKE SWISSPORT WHO TAKE ON CONTRACTS FOR NEXT TO NOTHING SO CAN ONLY PAY THEIR WORKERS PEANUTS FACT.AND NO I'M NOT A S/AIR MANAGER I AM A SIMPLE BAGGAGE HANDLER WORKING FOR S/AIR WHO IS THE BEST HANDLER ON THE AIRPORT BY MILES EARNING MY £30,000 A YEAR,THANKYOU S/AIR.......FACT:D. NICE ONE SAT1, WHOEVER YOU ARE.:ok:

Servisair Stn
 

Trap2
The facts are all the Airlines talk to all the handling agents and play them off against each other to get the best deal.:=
What matters at the end of day to Airlines is the price and the service you get.:D
If you are on £30.000 a year you don't have life,or your a White Shirt or Trainer or STL enjoy it while you can it will not be for much longer!!!
The facts are Servisair have had to go back to the Airlines and lower their price and who is going pay for this their employees if they win contracts stand by for restructering:{
Has anybody got b:mad:s at Servisair Union Reps offering to do the cleaning and 6 on 3 off ,management must p:mad:g themselves laughing.:ok::ok:

IN ANSWER TO TGWU...TRUTH HURTS DON'T IT MATE.:ok:.COME THE SUMMER I KNOW WHO I,D RATHER BE WORKING FOR AND IT AIN,T SWISSPORT.:{.COULD NOT AFFORD SUCH A MASSIVE DROP IN WAGES FOR A START.AND COULD SOMEBODY TELL ME ABOUT ALL THIS RESTRUCTURING AND SHIFT CHANGES THATS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN BECAUSE SOMEONES TALKING OUT OF THIER :mad:.

So you stand by many of your comments but are still unable to tell me exactly were the information came from, its not confidential or you dont treat its as confidential as you are openly discussing the topic on this forum so there can be no reason why you cant tell us all.
The AA story has gone from you saying its fact to you now stand by your comment! Thats not what i asked. why are they not happy? who is it that is not happy?
Yes EZ have had some problems but is more than on its way to being adresses maybe because our management consults fully with all parties to correct the situation. But if they wanted to move agents then wouldnt now be the best time before christmas then the new year and summer to allow for training of staff if servisair was to be awarded with the contract?
And trap 2, i love how you say things as fact and at the same time say you have no part in management. what....do the airlines come and see you with the problems and contracts, i think there is a commercial department that deals with that. And yes maybe some airlines have approached servisair but means nothing until a tender is put out or the termination of a contract.
With new contracts especially if we talk about the EZY, if menzies comes in and snaps up the contract who will they employ, let me tell you the workers from the agent that just lost their job and will that change the quality of handling and make EZY the slickest operation ever at STN i doubt it very much as the poor performance tends to come from the epmloyee themselves.
I am not arguing that this network is pointless but it just seems to be the same record being played over and over again.


Finally sat 1 i an very pleased to hear you love your job so much as i would hate to ever think you would take up a career in law as your cases would thrown out with lack of evidence :{. Look forward to hearing back from you!!!! :p:p:ok:

Trap 2
 

Sounds like someone needs to get out a bit and get some fresh air, think those aviation fumes have gone to your head.
no one gets that excited over throwing bags, and to be earning 30K you must be living there.

Triple X, well done never a truer word said :D:D.
There must be so many ears pressed against doors its surprising any work gets done.

WOW!!!!! I'VE OBVIOUSLY I'VE HIT A NERVE CHAPS, LETS JUST WAIT UNTIL THE SUMMER WHEN WE CAN SAY "WE TOLD YOU SO!".ANYWAY TIME TO STOP GOING ROUND IN CIRCLES.:zzz:

Well,well guys and gals,i think it's a bit late to be argueing about the union now.The fact is s/a are making redundancies starting from the top and working through the ranks,which means,any one who is 5/3-4/2-4/4,qaulified A1,A2,A3,A4 and handles luggage is in the firing line:eek:

S/a may be looking at other contracts but to get them and keep them s/a will have to lower their prices(and that's a FACT!!!!).As someone mentioned,it's a dog eat dog world out there and there's no room for hanging about.

Sat 1,please can you supply rock hard evidence about EZY,TK,AA etc that they are looking to join s/a's books. I don't think they will join s/a only because of the redundancy situation and musn't forget to say that any one who is made redundant they cannot employ any more workforce for another 6 months+(and that's a FACT) xxxxxxx

D-ABAA
 

Listen to rumours-you can't get away from the dam things-you of all people should now that?

Every Body Whoooo!!!!!!!
 

Sorry Peeps, But I Thought I Was The Grizzler...your All Doing Me Out Of A Job.
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Trap2 , glad to hear you like your job , but as all the airport know , the S/Air boys who got TUPED to Swissport FR nearly 6 years ago are all pulling 40k plus , so does that make S/Air the best handler for giving them the contract or Swissport the best handler for paying them ?

No prizes for guessing where you might be receiving your mince pie though hey wozzle :eek:

Supurb Diamond Hanger:ok:.
As I said earlier sounds as though Servisair is having another clean out getting rid of the dead wood and make a fresh start.
With reference to the swissport people on servisair contracts there cant be many left as the last I heard they where getting rid of them one way or another, sacked, forced to sign swissport contract or just generally left the airport/swissport and that was a couple of years back.
Airlines are no different to you and I, if we want to buy a car we look around we dont just take the first thing that comes along, and as for the the minions (we're all just tadpoles in a big F:mad:G pond) dishing out facts about airlines signing contracts is laughable unless its multi tasking in down time as commericial directors (shink not)!!

Now,now gotta go, no need to get personal on here mate,it's a forum,that's all. I beg to differ my friend that S/A ARE making redundancies within the next couple of weeks or longer but they will happen. They will start from the top and work downwards and yes i do agree that the managment(if you can call them that) should be looked at first.Why do we need that many people in the back office who i see not actually doing a great deal. There have been many people on here writing about management,are we talking about the 1's in the ivory tower OR the 1's in the back office? Let us clarify whom we should be talking about.

Haven't heard from Sat 1 for a long time,is this person ok or playing the field? xxxxxxxxx

spot on young man
 

the people who will loose their jobs r us the grafters.lets get rid of the sick notes or the lazy b:mad:tds.but no make enough tea or kiss enough a:mad:s your made .

Heads up please.

This thread has taken a dive and no longer represents anything!

You had all better get your act together and stop using it as a chat venue or a place where some of you vent your spleens. It needs to be intelligent - no text speak - no shouting (capital letters) - no swearing disguised or otherwise and definitely no abuse.

At the first sign of further deterioration it gets closed.

Btw. A couple of you have been banned from this thread altogether.

PPP

its all gotta go has got to go, that is not acceptable under any circumstances :rolleyes:

Well done PPRUNE "white shirts", its about time someone stopped this rubbish. You should ALL be ashamed of ourselves. Whatever you think about your managment, we should all be supporting each other, whatever the colour shirt you wear. Why would you all want to gloat that your workmates (i use the term very loosely) and others in your proffesion could be out of work for xmas. And as for the personnal attacks, they were guttless. Lets face it, a vast majority of us share the same restroom, so if you dont have the guts to say it to the individuals faces, dont say it at all. Lets get the tongues working with some good ol fashioned rumours, not rubbish that makes peoples life hell because every working minute of the day, someone is talking about it.

Towteambase
 

I would hate to rain on your parade but you have used shouting words(capitals) to all of us,just thought i would clarify that but yes pprune is correct,this is a forum for the use by all people who work in the Aviation industry and to post rumours,news anything that may or maybe not true. I personally would apologise to any members on here if i have offended them in any way and i believe those who have been barred from this site should do the same as with all of us,you know who you are!
Right back to the good stuff,as i said before,there will be redundancies within servisair and if that happens they might even change the shift patterns,who knows? We shall see! xxxx

P.S-I hope Sat 1 is well and kicking,love that person x

Back to the task at hand.
With the talk of redundancies at STN, and servisair gaining Exel at LGW it would nice to see no redundancies and busing staff down to LGW, not really ideal for staff but at the end of the day its still an income surely it makes sence.

PPrune good call.