:ugh: finally reaching the end of my tether going for my 1-2-1 today
any advice any one?

Edgehill
 

I have not even had a 1-2-1 yet. They keep threatening with imposing them but have not done anything yet.

Just heard that the June 5th handover to aviance is to be extended, don't know when till mind you

MAN staff date for TUPE is 11th July.

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Having been in Edinburgh several times now under the new flybe I can only say what an improvement there is in the ground handling now. I accept that BA ground handling felt they were understaffed/resourced and overworked and I feel sorry for those whose jobs have been put in danger, but from a customer point of view we are now receiving a much better overall level of service.

Sorry to have to say this because I do feel extremely sorry for the individuals involved BUT I don't fear going to EDI anymore now that we are not handled by BA.

However, coming back to BHX if you are informed Swissport are involved is a very traumatic experience ! Peanuts monkeys say no more - actually that's not fair. Peanuts - people who don't give a toss cos they are not paid enough to ! Pax at BHX will be voting with their feet if this continues.

April Payslip
 

Just checked my payslip and theres no retention pay or profit share bonus in my pay packet.

Talk about about kicking us when we are down, there was a lot of people looking forward to that extra money and there will be an uproar in BHX now it hasnt been paid!!

Retention Pay
 

Just been informed there was an admin error in BHX and our first part of the retention pay will be going into our banks on Mon with the profit share loyalty bonus the following week, then the next part of the retention pay coming at the end of May.

But I will believe it when I see it!!:*

Goldilocks95
 

This is not a text phone site, please learn to spell, any SLF/SLC reading this forum will be shocked by your spelling.

Well MAN have got their money correct the our "loyalty bonus" has been paid this month.... w.....ankers I have had enough thinking about topping myself or maybe taking TUPE not sure what is worse........................any advice:ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh:

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Jarvis

Now I am sure you are not serious but......... no job is worth that. We all make mistakes in life and that would be your biggest - also you wouldn't be able to change your mind.

Take the TUPE and if you don't like the new company it will give you a bit of time to explore your options in another job.

Life is good, not a rehearsal - your a long time dead. :ok:

I know thanks for the support, but I guess drink got the better of me last night seems thats happening alot at the moment,
As for TUPE think I will get shafted from aviance in no time, severance isn't worth a wan...k, so I guess it try to redeploy some where????
Still head banging mind you:ugh:
Jarvis

Jarvis
Now is the time for a steady head - I like my beer too but there is a time &...... etc. It is not now. You have to make your own rational decisions based on the best info you have at the time. Rational and beer don't mix. Aviance may well shaft you - then again you might get a pleasant suprise. If you don't give it a shot you will never know.
I have transferred to the new Flybe - its not all we had but it is not that bad either. There is a refreshing desire to get things done in a practical manner and improve things when needed. The people are alll very nice.

I say - give the tupe a go! If you change your mind then look out for something else but don't leave yourself unemployed. It is easier to get a job from a job.

Once you have made your decision life will appear a lot better - then you can have a beer!

Unsurity is not pleasant for anybody - you are not on your own

You will be suprised how pleasant life can be outside of BA :ok:

Good luck from someone who has suffered it several times before.

Thanks for the support bigmustard will have to chill out a little....:D

just found out BA wanted to sign with aviance today before the consultation period has finished, BA were told unions are going to the NSP's to advise that BA are giving work away while they still have staff employed at the respected stations and the sh*t hit the fan, all enhanced serverance offers were withdrawn, unions talking at the BATUC meeting being held today with senior BA managment...lets see what happens????

things must be bad Bev Bennett was in MAN yesterday trying to tell everybody that whislt your doing a great job putting a case forward to keep our jobs its all in vain and that the end was near, nice try love but its not over till the fat lady sings as they say:=

Where did you hear that Jarvis?

My missus works for BA at MAN...it seems comms are not BA's strong point as the only place we can find info on what's happening is places like here?!

They were given a handout yesterday with the 3 severance options, TUPE, etc, but how can anyone be expected to decide what to do when the figures haven't been agreed with the unions?!!

Any updates welcome!

James. There is a forum for serving BA staff,lots of info on there daily, I got some of my info from that the rest from my T&G rep

PM me if you want the address:ok:

Jarvis

Glad to see your not banging your head at the mo!!
I worked for Aviance for many years and to work for they are not a bad company, sure i had a moan every now and again, but who doesn't?
I say give them ago mate, they might even offer you something very nice if they want your experiance.......

good luck fella

mansp, i'm not saying there a bad company to work for, my only concern is that they will change my pay and T&C's quite quickly due to them being better than their current staff and I might as well find employment with BA at another location so that's protected saying all that not been given the chance to speak to aviance locally so not sure what their plans for any staff going over on TUPE guess I will reserve judgement until that time meanwhile the uncertainty is driving me mad

Yeah, get what you are saying Jarvis, not a easy decision no matter what you do really, got to be honest a dont envy you....
Get in the garden this weekend and have a few beers!!
Good luck mate

I have decided i'm applying for every position available got my application forms for WW CC @Lhr 11 month contract and contact BA at Didsbury lets see what happens from there, no more head banging for now:ok:

Todays Meeting At LHR
 

Has anyone heard the outcome of todays meeting at LHR between the unions and BA management, this meeting is supposed to be BA's last and final offer to regional staff for them to accept the giving away of our work.

Any news will be welcome good or bad.

So because the deal is done you lot don't want to speak ?????
well I will tell you BA have got rid of all of us on the cheap with no publicity or rock all, it is disgusting familys ruined lives down the pan willie walsh and his clan must drink horlicks the bas*ards because I can't sleep .............. back to head banging sorry:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

This may seem cruel but you need to get over it. Sections have been dumped at LHR /LGW for the last 20 years, also with little or no publicity. The sooner you accept you can then get on with your life.

Yes the sooner it is all over with now the better. People need to move on and see there is more to this world than BA.

HZ123
 

I have accepted it, can't wait for the end, as for sections being dumped on @ LHR/LGW over the last twenty years there is no comparison to this particular situation but mark my words when willie comes knocking on LGW's door to do the same to them the publicity will be big....but not worth a carrot the unions have sold us down the river and will do the same to them it's only a matter of time:D

The End is near - June 5th!!!
 

So as the final few days for most of us arrives, does everyone feel that we have got a good deal with severance and everything giving the circumstances??

I am a bit disappointed still that BA haven't been shamed more in the press for the job losses and pulling out of the regions but I suppose its a bit late now!

And now the end is near...........
 

Well I told you I would let you know what I was going to do well, I got offered WW CC this morning only a 11 month contract but gives me 12 months extra.....:)

Stupot.... Disappointed at lack of bad press for BA is a understatment they have got away with murder...the feeling at MAN is strange we have had a few move on to pastures new a few taking redeploment like me but mostly due to a lot have years of service are taking severence all in all everyone thinks thay are getting rid of us on the cheap.. are last official working day is 10 july we will be the last out station to go and guess what I am on lates that day so I guess I will turn the lights out on a great era..:D:D:D well done to all those staff who dispite the **** continued to give it their all to the end and good luck to all no matter what you persue

Jarvis769169:ok:

ps no more head banging I have give it up

jarvis769169 have many of you from Manchester managed to get onto WW CC?

Whilst many of the great staff at MAN could be described as "old timers" I have encountered a couple of enthusiastic younger guys in particular. I had a brief chat with one chap about my age who was working the Terraces one day who was talking about moving to WW CC (I assume you mean WorldWide BA, rather than bmi Baby?)

Glad to hear most of you are moving on reasonably happily, you have all been fantastic to me these last six months on my regular shuttles, connections, and insane trips! Even last week one friendly lady in the Terraces went above and beyond to sort out my First Class seating assignments :ok:

Spanishflea, I am glad you enjoy our service so much, you will glad to hear around 40-50 of us all have been offered WW CC with BA so our service to you and many can be extended further, as for us being reasonably happy I wouldn't go that far but the service will still be as good :ok:

Cheers Jarvis, that is good to know!

Seems like someone somewhere managed to vent his displeasure on one of the aircraft. Very nice! :ok:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1218518&size=L

Stupot/Jarvis

I've got the removal men coming tomorrow afternoon at BRS, and we hand everything back to the airport by the end of the week. I've been extended until 27Jun, just in case of any problems. Most of the staff seem to have found jobs, some with Servisair, both in the terminal and on Ops and Dispatch. I'm still waiting for something in writing, but have a couple of verbal offers. The back office here is looking a little bare.

GB

Groundbunnie
 

Your still hanging in there well done, don't worry the right option will show its self soon and you can contine with your life, :ok: all the best and good luck

Jarvis

Last Rites
 

Last day for many BA staff at BHX today, feel sorry for the way they have been shafted by all & sundry, those who have not decided to TUPE across were shown a good reason why that was a good decision today, some of them had finished shift & shared some wine in their crewroom, however the Flybe Ops manager (AM) decided that was not good enough & reported them to the TDM as "drinking in the concourse" What a knob!!!

Hope those are not staying find a better life outside of the hub, however expect to see many slowly return in drib's & drabs.

Good Luck all :sad:

End of BA Regional!
 

It was a sad day at work today in BHX, lots of people are moving to LHR to work as crew or groundstaff, me personally I have decided not to join the "feels like your being exploited" ticket desk and I am going to work in load control for Swissport which is soon to have a new Station Manager from BA so hopefully we will see some improvements in the company.

I wish everyone well in whatever you choose for the future and hope it works out for you all.

Stupot7738,
Any ideas of numbers going to cabin crew and have they heard when there training course is going to start,
Jarvis

Crew
 

Theres loads going to crew, about 100 I would say but not sure. Some have had SH courses already, some start SH on Monday and the rest start LH courses on August 6th+13th going on what people have told me.

Looks like our courses for LH are going to be late sept or early oct, EDI who finish 19th June got there dates 10 & 24 sept we don't finish till 10 July.....:confused:

Not many days to go now we all finish at MAN on the 10th July very sad very very sad :ugh: all those who have been affected by this good luck in what ever you do......I am going flying not the beat of jobs but one that pays the mortgage, I will be sad to leave the lads behind and the friends i've made............... all in all pretty ******* **** really yeah that would about sat it all PRETTY ******* **** THANKS WW AND BB THANKS A ******* LOT..................