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Old 22nd March 2012 | 12:01
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Have they already taken over Servisair at LHR?
I have not heard anything about Servisair at LHR, are you getting confused because Servisair bought Aviance in the regions and at the same time Dnata bought Aviance and Plane in LHR?

Any more substance to the rumours?

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Old 25th March 2012 | 16:17
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as far as I know they (Dnata) were interested in acquiring Cobalt Ground Solution (AF/KL Ground Handling in London ) ... ... ...
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Old 27th March 2012 | 12:36
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Menzies have also shown interest in purchasing Cobalt Ground Solutions, at LHR.
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Old 27th March 2012 | 15:21
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Do Air France-KLM want to sell Cobalt Ground Solutions?

If so is that because it is not doing well financially or because they want to concentrate on their core business?
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Old 28th March 2012 | 12:51
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I don't know if it's been announced, but I believe Menzies have bought out 'Flight Support' at MAN.

Also noticed 4 brand new Swissport hi-lo's on the M56 heading for MAN. They've got a fair bit of brand new equipment stored over near the hangars, I assume for the TCX contract which goes over to them on Saturday.

More redundancies announced at Servisair, the ship is sinking
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Old 28th March 2012 | 14:36
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Servisair secure emirates contract at GLA for 3 years.

Also recent extended VS contract until 2014.
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Old 31st March 2012 | 10:41
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Flybe at LGW

Just heard Flybe are now using MZ at LGW
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Old 2nd April 2012 | 14:50
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In addition to Menzies buying Flight Support at MAN, they have now won the contract for Etihad underwing
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Old 11th April 2012 | 15:30
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Just reported on Skynews that BA handling at LGW is to be transferred to a handling agent. Anyone know who it's going to ?
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Old 11th April 2012 | 20:29
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Menzies I'd assume?
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Old 11th April 2012 | 23:30
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BBC News - British Airways plans to cut jobs at Gatwick Airport

Looks like ramp is going to be outsourced yet handling remains in house but downsized? Anyone confirm?
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Old 11th April 2012 | 23:49
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Looks like ramp is going to be outsourced yet handling remains in house but downsized? Anyone confirm?
Probably too risky to transfer all functions in one go, i.e Ops, Dispatch and check-in functions as these require a lot more systems training. The day will come though.
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Old 12th April 2012 | 07:27
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Trial run before outsourcing LHR?
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Old 12th April 2012 | 10:36
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Gatwick Cuts.

I think Aircraft Handling is going too. Engineering is spared along with a significant number of check in personnel. TRMs are going as well. Allegedly cost savings are 22% to 40% per annum. Cuts effective from November 2012.
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Old 12th April 2012 | 16:26
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Not wanting to disrepect any TRM, some of em get paid more than a new FO just out of flight training, having to pay the bank whoknowshowmuch.

As bad as it may feel for lots of people, somewhere, commercially, it might make sense?!
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Old 13th April 2012 | 11:27
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With all due respect,why should a TRM not get paid more than a new out of training FO.He/she has probably many years with the company,much experience and heavy responsibilities in his job,and he will not be earning the salary that the FO will be earning once he has gained a bit of experience.
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Old 13th April 2012 | 12:12
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Make your 'a bit' about 7 years and then we might find an agreement.

As I said, no disrespect to any TRM - if you're in the board of a company and find out outsourcing it might save you 20-40%, why would you not?
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Old 13th April 2012 | 12:43
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Over a 45 year career 7 years is a bit IMHO.I was just addressing the point that you seem to think that a new out of training fo has some great value .You are of course right that outsourcing would appear to be a great cost reducing excercise for management,however this slash and burn policy that seems to be going on at LGW will touch the lives of all other BA workers including pilots ,terms and conditions for all are on a downward slide,appart from those few people put there to carry out this business who will be taking home a nice little bonus once the job done, which will no doubt be in six figures.

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Old 13th April 2012 | 17:36
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Yet again the ground staff are getting shafted in the airport world.

Its an absolite farce the level of pay that folk are expected to work for when you see the level of responsibility placed on their shoulders, especially a TRM/TRC/Dispatcher.

£6.80 p/h. An absolute abomination.
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Old 13th April 2012 | 21:47
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tomkins,

I fully agree with what you say about 6 figure people at the top deciding on how much pilots get. Also, I don't think every new FO is a fantastic addition to a company - maybe I'm thinking that somewhere, far away, it's 'meant to be' like that after haven taken the biggest financial risk in a (young?) life.

On the other hand... 6.80/hr?! Where do you get that from, if I may ask, Bigbluebroxi?
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