baggage handling procedures

[ISLANDERFLIER]

Anyone knows if there is any regulation regarding keeping the baggage always (unless exceptions) with the passenger in international flights.
In the US, baggage gets sent ahead of the passenger without the passenger's knowledge even when you're doing an international trip with stopovers.

[STN Ramp Rat]

best not to talk about baggage security measures on a public thread

[ISLANDERFLIER]

So, there are no CFR for this?

[The96er]

As far as UK law goes, the bag must always travel with the passenger on every flight either domestically or internationally regardless of the aircraft registration. The only exception are what are known as 'Rush bags' where the bag can travel without the passenger as long as certain conditions have been met - usually extra x-ray screening.

best not to talk about baggage security measures on a public thread

The rules and regulations are well documented for people to view - there's no secrecy !!

[FlyingEagle21]

As stated only 'rush' bags are permitted due to extra screening and identification by the owner before hand.

Lets say a 757 is filled up with 250 bags loose load and some are connection bags from another flight. Sometimes the connection pax for whatever reason are late or don't show. This happened often when I worked the ramp.

Procedure states we had to find the bags and remove them from the aircraft! The amount of times it ended up to be the first bag on the plane or just as you found it the passenger turned up!

[750XL]

We usually keep the transfer bags to one side until it has been confirmed that the passenger has boarded, then they can be loaded on the aircraft.

[ISLANDERFLIER]

question: when baggage can go separate from passenger?

Does anyone know where is regulated (what doc) that in international flights the suitcase should always travel in the same plane as the passenger?
Thanks

[aergid]

Although 100% PPBM (Passenger Profiling Baggage Management) is currently performed on all international flights, pursuant to the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) requirements, the FAA has not required PPBM on domestic flights except in periodic emergency
situations.

PPBM - Checked in Baggage has to travel on the same flight as the passenger who checked it in...

There is also a strong arguement been raised with 1 very simple question included:

A number of Terrorist groups have long practiced Suicide missions, so what difference does PPBM make?

Its a valid point which the FAA are contemplating....

BTW the quote is from an EPIC report into Baggage Security from a few years back, but the rules are still the same in the USA (As far as I am aware anyway)...

[ISLANDERFLIER]

Thank you very much.
That was very useful.
apparently it should be in ICAO annex 17.

[The96er]

BTW the quote is from an EPIC report into Baggage Security from a few years back, but the rules are still the same in the USA (As far as I am aware anyway)...

As regards to U.S procedures, it's my understanding that the bags must travel with their respective owner on all International flights, however, in the duties of my job here in the U.K, I've noticed that it's not uncommon for bags to travel unaccompanied in transit through the U.K en-route to another country with the passenger routed direct. Would seems the regulations are not enforced rigidly unlike here in the U.K.

[Creasy]

ISLANDERFLIER

answering your question look at

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2010:055:0001:0055N:PDF

look at Par. 5

reconciliation.