UAE CAR OPS Isolated Airport Fuel Policy Question
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UAE CAR OPS Isolated Airport Fuel Policy Question
As per Car Ops its Section 2, 1.255 Fuel Policy part 3
My question is
do we have to give 2 Hours of fuel holding at Cruise FL + final reserve which is 30Min holding at destination at 1500agl
or
Just 2 hours holding at Crusie FL?
If any one from Emirates or Etihad can tell me what Isolated fuel policy they are using would also be very helpfull.
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My question is
do we have to give 2 Hours of fuel holding at Cruise FL + final reserve which is 30Min holding at destination at 1500agl
or
Just 2 hours holding at Crusie FL?
If any one from Emirates or Etihad can tell me what Isolated fuel policy they are using would also be very helpfull.
Thanks
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For a US FAR 121 operator, when declaring Island Reserves (2 hour rule) the only thing you plan to land with is the 2 hours of reserve, and nothing else.
While not specifically applicable to the UAE, I would be very surprised if they had anything additional on top of that in their rules...
While not specifically applicable to the UAE, I would be very surprised if they had anything additional on top of that in their rules...
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Thanks for the reply "dispatchshmoe"
I'm just a bit confused as per the wording used in the UAE CAR Ops. And I can't find anyone who can give me clear answer.
Just so that you know what I mean this is the excerpt from CAR ops.
Fuel Policy
3 Isolated aerodrome procedure. If an operator’s fuel policy includes planning to an isolated aerodrome
for which a destination alternate does not exist, the amount of fuel at departure should include:
3.1 Taxi fuel;
3.2 Trip Fuel;
3.3 Contingency Fuel calculated in accordance with sub-paragraph 1.3 above;
3.4 Additional Fuel if required, but not less than:
(a) For aeroplanes with reciprocating engines, fuel to fly for 45 minutes plus 15% of the flight time
planned to be spent at cruising level, or two hours, whichever is less; or
(b) For aeroplanes with turbine engines, fuel to fly for two hours at normal cruise consumption after
arriving overhead the destination aerodrome, including final reserve fuel; and
3.5 Extra Fuel if required by the commander.
1.5 Final reserve fuel, which should be:
(a) For aeroplanes with reciprocating engines, fuel to fly for 45 minutes; or
(b) For aeroplanes with turbine power units, fuel to fly for 30 minutes at holding speed at 1 500 ft
(450 m) above aerodrome elevation in standard conditions, calculated with the estimated mass on
arrival at the alternate or the destination, when no alternate is required.
I'm just a bit confused as per the wording used in the UAE CAR Ops. And I can't find anyone who can give me clear answer.
Just so that you know what I mean this is the excerpt from CAR ops.
Fuel Policy
3 Isolated aerodrome procedure. If an operator’s fuel policy includes planning to an isolated aerodrome
for which a destination alternate does not exist, the amount of fuel at departure should include:
3.1 Taxi fuel;
3.2 Trip Fuel;
3.3 Contingency Fuel calculated in accordance with sub-paragraph 1.3 above;
3.4 Additional Fuel if required, but not less than:
(a) For aeroplanes with reciprocating engines, fuel to fly for 45 minutes plus 15% of the flight time
planned to be spent at cruising level, or two hours, whichever is less; or
(b) For aeroplanes with turbine engines, fuel to fly for two hours at normal cruise consumption after
arriving overhead the destination aerodrome, including final reserve fuel; and
3.5 Extra Fuel if required by the commander.
1.5 Final reserve fuel, which should be:
(a) For aeroplanes with reciprocating engines, fuel to fly for 45 minutes; or
(b) For aeroplanes with turbine power units, fuel to fly for 30 minutes at holding speed at 1 500 ft
(450 m) above aerodrome elevation in standard conditions, calculated with the estimated mass on
arrival at the alternate or the destination, when no alternate is required.
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Just a theory
I am not ME nor do I have to plan Isolated (or as we call it) Island reserves.
Reading backwards, from point of arrival:
3.1
3.2
3.3
All burnt off, the cont fuel avoiding weather for example.
Cruise fuel for the two hours at normal cruise level calculated on:
Entering the hold @ destination, at ZFW + the weight of reserve fuel (-alternate) used to calculate backwards the burn at 2 hrs @ Cruise level.
Reading backwards, from point of arrival:
3.1
3.2
3.3
All burnt off, the cont fuel avoiding weather for example.
Cruise fuel for the two hours at normal cruise level calculated on:
Entering the hold @ destination, at ZFW + the weight of reserve fuel (-alternate) used to calculate backwards the burn at 2 hrs @ Cruise level.
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Hi Gambit,
Here is a late referenced answer:
So for isolated aerodromes, your addn fuel includes your final reserve fuel.
Cheers
Here is a late referenced answer:
Originally Posted by CAR-OPS
3 Isolated aerodrome procedure. If an operator’s fuel policy includes planning to an isolated aerodrome for which a destination alternate does not exist, the amount of fuel at departure should include:
3.1 Taxi fuel;
3.2 Trip Fuel;
3.3 Contingency Fuel calculated in accordance with sub-paragraph 1.3 above;
3.4 Additional Fuel if required, but not less than:
(a) For aeroplanes with reciprocating engines, fuel to fly for 45 minutes plus 15% of the flight time planned to be spent at cruising level, or two hours, whichever is less; or
(b) For aeroplanes with turbine engines, fuel to fly for two hours at normal cruise consumption after arriving overhead the destination aerodrome, including final reserve fuel; and
3.5 Extra Fuel if required by the commander.
3.1 Taxi fuel;
3.2 Trip Fuel;
3.3 Contingency Fuel calculated in accordance with sub-paragraph 1.3 above;
3.4 Additional Fuel if required, but not less than:
(a) For aeroplanes with reciprocating engines, fuel to fly for 45 minutes plus 15% of the flight time planned to be spent at cruising level, or two hours, whichever is less; or
(b) For aeroplanes with turbine engines, fuel to fly for two hours at normal cruise consumption after arriving overhead the destination aerodrome, including final reserve fuel; and
3.5 Extra Fuel if required by the commander.
Cheers
Last edited by shortfuel; 21st Nov 2011 at 18:53.