Working Pilot after being Dispatcher

[SU-Dispatcher]

Hello everybody ..

Is it possible to work in an airline as a pilot after working for a while as a flight dispatcher ?? in another way , may the airlines give flight dispatchers the practical flying training to be pilots or they must go for schools courses ???

[CFPlnr]

Yep, I know of two ex QF dispatchers that are now QF pilots

[SU-GCM]

Looking at Your location which is also mine I would say forget about it

Dispatchers barely find jobs and already there is enough pilots in the market

Feel free to PM me if you would like would be interested to hear more about you

[SU-Dispatcher]

CFPlnr .. Thank you so much for replying

SU-GCM , Thank you at 1st for replying .. I got the certification from e.a.a on 14 OCT 2010 and i have not apply for the license exam yet .. I heard that Egypt Air will publish for dispatcher jobs on the next Jan or Feb .. but i would like to chat with you about somethings .. if you don't mind , Really i need help ! .

[SU-GCM]

Good Luck SU-Dispatcher

Check your PM

[JB007]

I did Crewing for quite a few years before going flying, a lot of the airlines I worked for were very supportive, I managed to get a bit of simulator time and good advice.

But I think they were the good old days...

[lander66]

I think you might be on your own like anyone else who wants to be a pilot. I think you will still have to pay for your own training, the only difference is that you are more likely to have better contacts for the airline and will therefore have a better chance of succeeding in actually getting a job when qualified. I myself am thinking of going down this route simply to get valuable airport experience and to make a few useful contacts whilst earning to get my licenses!

[Iamsosmrt]

If flying is in your heart, stay out of ops!!

Dispatch is a career, just like being a pilot. It is not a foot in the door job when your career has stalled. Please do not take a dispatchers job if you do not want it.

We do not like being lied to before we hire you. We do not want to hear how you dream about flying and a desk job is beneath you after we hire you. We do not like training you for 6 months then watching all that hard work walk out the door once you get sniff of the cockpit. We do not like working all the extra hours to cover for you when you are gone. We don't want to start the whole process over again with another guy who swears he dosen't want to be a pilot.

you guys have absolutly no idea how many good people you screw over just to get your foot in the door.

[Janu]

If you want to be a pilot then I think a job as cabin-crew might be a better way forward.

[desertopsguy]

Pilots need not apply.

If I get a CV that suggests the applicant is trying to get a foot in the door to go flying then the CV goes in the trash... Nothing wrong with folks who one day aspire to become pilots. I'm talking about the ones who come straight out of flight school with the shiny new frozen ATPL's who pretend that they want to be dispatchers and once in the door they then spend half their time badgering the chief pilot, head of training, VP Flt Ops or anyone else who will listen. They can be a huge waste of your time and the very second an opportunity pops up they are gone.

I much prefer to give the breaks to someone who likes ops. Keeps my trash can less full too

Speaking of which...I know of some vacancies in DXB for GCAA licence holders (ONLY)...total package is 2,000 USD / month.

PM for info.

[SloppyJoe]

We run (maybe ran) a program where people from other parts of the airline could apply for pilot jobs, if they passed the medical and other tests they went through the cadet scheme funded by the company and became second officers. Have flown with a couple of FOs who were cabin crew and did this.

[CFPlnr]

[QUOTE]f I get a CV that suggests the applicant is trying to get a foot in the door to go flying then the CV goes in the trash... Nothing wrong with folks who one day aspire to become pilots. I'm talking about the ones who come straight out of flight school with the shiny new frozen ATPL's who pretend that they want to be dispatchers and once in the door they then spend half their time badgering the chief pilot, head of training, VP Flt Ops or anyone else who will listen. They can be a huge waste of your time and the very second an opportunity pops up they are gone.

I much prefer to give the breaks to someone who likes ops. Keeps my trash can less full too

Speaking of which...I know of some vacancies in DXB for GCAA licence holders (ONLY)...total package is 2,000 USD / month.

PM for info./QUOTE]

A bit hard on em there DOG, you can hardly blame anyone really when all that's on offer is 2Kusd/mth.....!!!!

[desertopsguy]

No need to shoot the messenger, was just passing on a lead. 2000usd or 1250GBP is not a bad salary for an entry level position in EU UK US or anywhere else for that matter.

[JB007]

DOGs and other actions to wannabe pilots getting feet in the door is pretty standard these days - I remember been interviewed for Crewing and Ops positions and it been seen as a plus point that you had ambitions to fly and a long term career planned...but as I said, those were the good old days I think!

The industry as a whole now is 'cut-throat and ruthless...'

[SU-Dispatcher]

at 1st ..Thank you all for your posts & reply , but before you talk about someone, you should know this person very well .. Instead of talking rudely without any minimum knowledge of this person !! ..

I don't want to be pilot for the brilliant suit or a social respect ( just as you think ) , because every respective job beams its respect to others , and people can respect you for your attitude and brain not for your job !! I'm not as your unconscious mind told you , no .. I'm so great inside and i believe of that so deeply , because you don't know who I'm well , how i think about it ,what are my plans , or just : YOU cannot read my mind !!

There are members replied on my post so positively , and others replied so negatively , it's at end represents how your unconscious mind think about the life , and specially about this topic , Sorry kind man , you're the person who will suffer more and more by your negative thinking and you will fight the world to record a tiny point of success , because you already think negatively about everything goes into your life .. with deeply sadness i feel sorry for you ..

I'm now talking to the positive persons ( Ignoring negatives ) .. I wanted to be one day a pilot , it was like a dream .. and when I spent so many time on Microsoft Flight Simulator and IVAO , I read a lot about aviation , not just to be a pilot .. but i read about ATC , mechanical studies of aircraft , Cabin crew work .. just because i love the aviation generally ( That's why i told you negatives that you don't know me well ! - I know you'll try to read this now , just to satisfy your ego ) .. and because I'm not rich , but i have the ambition .. i cannot study flying , and I think maybe being a dispatcher become a step to fly ..

In the worst-case , after i got a Dispatcher job i can pay for a Pilot Licenses ..

At end , I was about to ignore replying because your negative words won't break my determination and insistence , but Positive people who replied must receive my respect and thanks ..

So thank you so much for helping me ..

Best regards to all

[polarbearjim]

I am currently a dispatcher and training to be a Pilot. The pay isn't always what it should be but I have found it to be valuable in many other ways. I applied for the job because when I started flying I met quite a few others just getting their first flying jobs who had been dispatchers beforehand. My employers had no problems with me wanting to fly. I didn't keep it a secret. Earning the money to pay for training means I am not going to shoot of straight away and they have got a good few years of someone working for them who is keen to get involved, learn new things and who actually enjoys the job which can't be said for everyone working in aviation. You'll also find that in this industry it's very much who you know. Working in operations means you are very well placed to get to know the sort of people who could help you. It also means you will gain experience in things like flight planning, weight and balance and the way the industry is organised which will give you a head start on your atpls and help you settle into an airline pilot job easier.

[SU-Dispatcher]

polarbearjim

Thank you so much .. and so i do , i think working in operations section of the aviation industry would help making many useful relations ,pilots , ground crew , cabin crew , managers of the firm , etc .. that can help any flying lover to change his/her career ..

Best Regards dude

[Iamsosmrt]

Good Luck

If a few of us sound negetive in our response it is not because we are negetive people. It is because we are trying advance and enjoy a career in aviation just like you. We are not dreaming of life in the cockpit or working toward a pilot position. We resent to fact that so many others in the industry (pilot wannabes, pilots, managment) seem to think that our jobs are so unimportant that they can be filled with pilots looking to get a foot in the door and willling to work for nothing. You pilot's bring your willingness to undercut each other into my carreer choice and force wages down for me, creating revolving door positions, endless retraining and yet you expect me to be positive about it!!!

It's all about you. Never thinking about the effects of your actions on others.

[SU-Dispatcher]

Every job , every industry is important in our life , even a poor cleaner man .. he has a role in the life , a big role ..

I don't look at a Dispatcher or an Airline Pilot as a job , I'm looking at them as a role in the life .. & who told you that dispatchers are not important , Sorry .. he/she is illiterate what's the role of the dispatcher !! .. because flight dispatching is the heart of any airline ..

Maybe you understood me wrong , and I did so .. anyway Good luck for you too , & thank you for your posting ..

Mohamed Sayed

[desertopsguy]

Try reading it again...this time without the charged emotion.


Nothing wrong with folks who one day aspire to become pilots. I'm talking about the ones who come straight out of flight school with the shiny new frozen ATPL's who pretend that they want to be dispatchers...

As JB007 has said, it is a cut throat and ruthless industry and the fact that young pilots spend so much money training means that they will do anything to make sure that this training does not go to waste. that said, I will not invest any of my company's time and money in training someone else who will leave the moment the cockpit door is open to him.

Good operations people are hard to find and take years to train. The game has changed and alot of money is at stake, efficiency is the order of the day. Someone looking out the window day dreaming does not make an ideal candidate; I have experienced this first hand.

Am not being negative, am being realistic.

P.s...dont feel sorry for me LOL, am having another fantastic day

All the best...