Transatlantic and US Flight Planning
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Transatlantic and US Flight Planning
Hi Folks,
My works aircraft are going to start venturing further afield and just wondered if there are any recognized courses you can get for Transatlantic flight planning and planning inside the US.
What is also the best package, ie Jetplan for example, also will they take into consdieration what the NAT tracks are and suitable alternates?
Appreciate any help offered!
Cheers
D
My works aircraft are going to start venturing further afield and just wondered if there are any recognized courses you can get for Transatlantic flight planning and planning inside the US.
What is also the best package, ie Jetplan for example, also will they take into consdieration what the NAT tracks are and suitable alternates?
Appreciate any help offered!
Cheers
D
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From: London
Hello,
I'm not aware of any specific courses for transatlantic & US flight planning, however a good start would be to download and read the MNPSA Operations Manual. A large proportion of it is flight crew specific, however there is a chapter for guidance to flight dispatchers (Ch.15).
http://www.nat-pco.org/mnpsa.htm
In terms of flight planning systems they should all take into consideration of the current tracks (I know Jetplan certainly does). Suitable alternates will have to be chosen by yourselves based on your company SOP's. It's a good idea to read the MNPS guide to make yourself aware of what you can and cannot do, e.g. climbing/descending on tracks, when you can join and leave tracks etc etc... There are many Jetplan route inputs for track flying, they are all listed in the user manual (accessible on Jetplan.com).
Flying in the US is pretty straight forward (just make sure Customs & Immigration know you are coming in the first place with the correct paperwork). This thread has some more information on US ATC procedures:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=308870
Oh and don't forget to arrange your TSA Waiver in good time should your operation require one. NOTAM FDC 6/7435 contains the latest version of the requirements I beleive.
Hope this helps
Buzzz
I'm not aware of any specific courses for transatlantic & US flight planning, however a good start would be to download and read the MNPSA Operations Manual. A large proportion of it is flight crew specific, however there is a chapter for guidance to flight dispatchers (Ch.15).
http://www.nat-pco.org/mnpsa.htm
In terms of flight planning systems they should all take into consideration of the current tracks (I know Jetplan certainly does). Suitable alternates will have to be chosen by yourselves based on your company SOP's. It's a good idea to read the MNPS guide to make yourself aware of what you can and cannot do, e.g. climbing/descending on tracks, when you can join and leave tracks etc etc... There are many Jetplan route inputs for track flying, they are all listed in the user manual (accessible on Jetplan.com).
Flying in the US is pretty straight forward (just make sure Customs & Immigration know you are coming in the first place with the correct paperwork). This thread has some more information on US ATC procedures:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=308870
Oh and don't forget to arrange your TSA Waiver in good time should your operation require one. NOTAM FDC 6/7435 contains the latest version of the requirements I beleive.
Hope this helps
Buzzz
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BUZZ concur
Whoever is your CFPL provider will deliver a basic MNPS/ETOPs indoc. If it's Jepp/UV etc they'll give you an into to US procs etc. Ask the question of your provider, they'll answer gladly.
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Deek,
It's cheaper to outsource the flight plan and tracking rather than deal with everything in house.
Inbound to US - OVerflight permit? Customs / Immigration ? General Declarations? APIS transmissions?
As an american based company, we do all domestic flight plans, but Hawaii and Europe are outsourced. Much cheaper!!
It's cheaper to outsource the flight plan and tracking rather than deal with everything in house.
Inbound to US - OVerflight permit? Customs / Immigration ? General Declarations? APIS transmissions?
As an american based company, we do all domestic flight plans, but Hawaii and Europe are outsourced. Much cheaper!!
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From: Hong Kong
just wonder is there any similar documents like the NAT MNPSA OPS Manual for PACOTS, AORRA, etc. Also, is there any detailed informations about the Polar route? I know there should be 4 polar routes used to fly between North America and Asia. Can anyone kindly tell me where can I find such information? thanks a lot.
