Ops Pay.......
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No-one can work in ops (or crewing) for the money......
Don't know anyone who gets more with a licence either.
HAPPY NEW YEAR
Especially to all the ops and crewing people who have managed to get through this stretch of mega wx - its been fun - not.
2001 - we are supposed to be living on the moon - yet we cannot successfully heat de-ice fluid.
Don't know anyone who gets more with a licence either.
HAPPY NEW YEAR
Especially to all the ops and crewing people who have managed to get through this stretch of mega wx - its been fun - not.
2001 - we are supposed to be living on the moon - yet we cannot successfully heat de-ice fluid.
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Re ops - no licences required uk - just the desire to work in an environment with lots of soft and smelly stuff flying around (much of which sticks).
I'm now looking at rejoining ops or dispatch - have found huge geographical pay differentials - THAT'S the norm.
Happy New Year to all - off to the pub now.
Giz a job.
Re ops - no licences required uk - just the desire to work in an environment with lots of soft and smelly stuff flying around (much of which sticks).
I'm now looking at rejoining ops or dispatch - have found huge geographical pay differentials - THAT'S the norm.
Happy New Year to all - off to the pub now.
Giz a job.
or joker in the pack 
Don't want RS being upset in the morning.
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Jesus...Someone out there is on 7K a year.
As an ex-dispatcher you have my total sympathy. Personally I wouldn't get out of bed for that and I don't see why you should either.
If anyone is looking to get out of Dispatch/Crewing/Ops and earn some real money ( Circa. £29K + performance bonus' ) selling FltOps related IT systems, email your CV.
I'm looking for about 5 years experience, good industry knowledge and self motivated. London area or wherever you are now, home based if absolutely neccessary. Sales area Scandinavia to Cape Town and Sri Lanka to Canary Islands so plenty of opportunty to travel.
All CV's handled with strictest confidence.
Whooaahh!!!
As an ex-dispatcher you have my total sympathy. Personally I wouldn't get out of bed for that and I don't see why you should either.
If anyone is looking to get out of Dispatch/Crewing/Ops and earn some real money ( Circa. £29K + performance bonus' ) selling FltOps related IT systems, email your CV.
I'm looking for about 5 years experience, good industry knowledge and self motivated. London area or wherever you are now, home based if absolutely neccessary. Sales area Scandinavia to Cape Town and Sri Lanka to Canary Islands so plenty of opportunty to travel.
All CV's handled with strictest confidence.
Whooaahh!!!
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Trust me...9.5K is crap for a DO.
Following my previous post I expected to be flooded with CV's, but only 4 so far!!
The last time we publicly advertised we got over 60 applicants for 1 vacancy, mine!!! So far these vacancies have only been posted here in PPRuNe so come on guy's...£29K is not to be sniffed at. The performance bonus is another 35% or £10,150K and, Oh, did I mention the Performance Related Shares issue as well?
Think about it, we will pay you to trawl the patch for a couple of years..introducing yourself to as many Ops Managers as you can get appointments with. How many prospective future employers already know your face??
Whooaahh!!!
Following my previous post I expected to be flooded with CV's, but only 4 so far!!
The last time we publicly advertised we got over 60 applicants for 1 vacancy, mine!!! So far these vacancies have only been posted here in PPRuNe so come on guy's...£29K is not to be sniffed at. The performance bonus is another 35% or £10,150K and, Oh, did I mention the Performance Related Shares issue as well?
Think about it, we will pay you to trawl the patch for a couple of years..introducing yourself to as many Ops Managers as you can get appointments with. How many prospective future employers already know your face??
Whooaahh!!!
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Why do we do it?
It can't be for the money, surely.
Take my case.
April 2000 relocated to SW England - left VS traffic LHR c20K.
No aviation jobs immediately available down here - walked straight into a rail company
as a branch-line conductor, no rail experience - 2 months training - c17K plus a little commission. Virgin and First GW paying c19.5k plus comm for 'train managers' (CSDs or IFSs of rail - conductor). Branch drivers c23.5K main-line intercity c29-32k (again no rail exp necessary - one year training).
Why do I still apply for aviation jobs? Beacause I'm barkin' f**kin' mad that's why.
It's not the money - it's in the blood. Would I work in aviation for 9-12K? No.
That is exploitation and I am now only too well aware of companies paying this sort of money. Why am I telling you this? I don't know - perhaps to advise the younger types among you that unless you're going flying, aviation is maybe not a good career move. Look elsewhere in the real world and
GIVE THE SAD OLD BAS**RDS SUCH AS MYSELF MORE OF A CHANCE!
Now GIZ A JOB!
It can't be for the money, surely.
Take my case.
April 2000 relocated to SW England - left VS traffic LHR c20K.
No aviation jobs immediately available down here - walked straight into a rail company
as a branch-line conductor, no rail experience - 2 months training - c17K plus a little commission. Virgin and First GW paying c19.5k plus comm for 'train managers' (CSDs or IFSs of rail - conductor). Branch drivers c23.5K main-line intercity c29-32k (again no rail exp necessary - one year training).
Why do I still apply for aviation jobs? Beacause I'm barkin' f**kin' mad that's why.
It's not the money - it's in the blood. Would I work in aviation for 9-12K? No.
That is exploitation and I am now only too well aware of companies paying this sort of money. Why am I telling you this? I don't know - perhaps to advise the younger types among you that unless you're going flying, aviation is maybe not a good career move. Look elsewhere in the real world and
GIVE THE SAD OLD BAS**RDS SUCH AS MYSELF MORE OF A CHANCE!
Now GIZ A JOB!
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Offload !
Very amused by your post and slightly saddened to hear this industry has fallen so far behind in terms of pay. I think we've all seen this happening for a long time now but have chosen to ignore it and hope for the best..but I have to ask you one question..are the staff travel perks and uniforms any better ?!?
Luv of the job..I think so cause it cant be much else
Very amused by your post and slightly saddened to hear this industry has fallen so far behind in terms of pay. I think we've all seen this happening for a long time now but have chosen to ignore it and hope for the best..but I have to ask you one question..are the staff travel perks and uniforms any better ?!?
Luv of the job..I think so cause it cant be much else
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Well, you'll never beat the VS staff travel package (7 free sub-load returns VS network after 6 months service) but hey, now I get a maroon coloured blazer (never worn) and I can travel anywhere in the SW and Wales in a stinking, filthy cattle truck for free.
But just give me one 100% subload after 12 months and I'll be perfectly happy (of even just unlimited 90%).
I deal quite well with the stress of trying to get on a heavily oversold LAX in summer time. (more tips - always check booked loads and make sure you know someone who knows someone)
But just give me one 100% subload after 12 months and I'll be perfectly happy (of even just unlimited 90%).
I deal quite well with the stress of trying to get on a heavily oversold LAX in summer time. (more tips - always check booked loads and make sure you know someone who knows someone)
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Maroon coloured blazers and the chance to visit Wales on a regular basis, no doubt with crap overpriced coffe !! I can see why you left VS.
It does tend to p**s me off slightly at the lack of financial incentives payed out these days compared to similar roles elsewhere, but then again, you hit the nail mentioning heavily subsidised flights as a major perk which, personally, I use to the absolute full. It's not all bad.........
One day I'll get a proper job, but, until then, I'm off to plan my next holiday !!
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Stirling,
Good to see that someone else uses their travel concessions to the utmost. I have to admit that this is one reason to stay in this job. If it wasn't for having the opportunity I would have never been able to visit all the different parts of the world and be stuck days on end waiting for a spare seat.
You must be being paid top wack.
Good to see that someone else uses their travel concessions to the utmost. I have to admit that this is one reason to stay in this job. If it wasn't for having the opportunity I would have never been able to visit all the different parts of the world and be stuck days on end waiting for a spare seat.
You must be being paid top wack.