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Old 31st Jan 2004, 20:46
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Can't say who I've heard it from but its pretty much common knowledge on our station, I think the company is looking to bring loadcontrol under one roof and have gate agents instead of dispatchers at all the out stations in the future rather than dispatchers. Also remember that in the states, dispatchers are the guys with the licence who make ops decisions/planning and those guys at the aircraft who do the turnaround are known as rampers who board and also moniter the turnaround, so I think they might be looking at saving money in the long run by implementing this. I might be completely wrong this the reason for this though, also remember that all licenced flights LH/PK/EK etc will still need to be covered by licenced dispatchers at the aircraft so this CLC can only cover charter carriers and few scheduled airlines.
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Old 1st Feb 2004, 19:02
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True EZY did go to curcusair at lpl as EGGPOPS said, but as for Aviance pulling out of LPL, i don't think so. it is one of the fastest growing airports in the uk, and with the capital of culture will only grow.

Servisair tried to get Aviance to pull out by taking Ezy from them, but failed to realise that their own business would suffer. Euromanx left, Ryanair Dropped a route, BA pulled out of LPL, Air wales, came and went in days, and now jet magic have gone to.

Servisair will now realise that having the main carrier at an airport doesn't you are the biggest, they will find it hard to attract new business due to this, and it is going pear shaped very quickly for them here.

No staff, Very very very low morale.
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Old 1st Feb 2004, 22:33
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when is the CLC due to start. is it in the next 6 months??

cwllpl: it seems that servisair are the same everywhere.

cheers!!!
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Old 2nd Feb 2004, 00:37
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CLC to start within 2 months apparently
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Old 2nd Feb 2004, 03:42
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ok looks like they are trying to start it before the summer season is it just at MAN at first or do you know what other stations are gona come under the hat?
Servisair are pritty poor at the best of times so i dnt no how they think this sort of system will work!!
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There are letters out to the customers re this CLC issue. That's pretty poor if the staff haven't been told!

I've heard that aviance are making a better percentage profit at LPL without the EZY contract so if this is true it seems unlikely they would pull out.
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Old 3rd Feb 2004, 05:53
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I'm telling you now CLC will not happen for Servisair, I will bet as much money on that, if I'm proved wrong then I'll appologies.
I'ts not gonna work anyway for obviouse reasons, and I'm sure we're not gonna get into the reasons WHY again!!!!

This bussines with Aviance at LPL, tell me, who do they actually handle, FR (servisair) EZY (servisair) BY (servisair) GX before they went bust (servisair) MON (servisair) 3X euromanx (servisair) BA (servisair) MYT (servisair) can't think of many other carrieres but list them and I'll tell ya who handles them, if Servisair handle all these carriers at LPL can't see somehow that Aviance can be making much money MMm.

CHEERS!!!!!!!

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Old 3rd Feb 2004, 06:45
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Heard that servisair in Newcastle in lot of trouble due to staffing levels. There is a threat that their licence to operate at the airport will be withdrawn
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Your ignorance makes me ill! or should I say you love for Servisair blinds you.

euromanx 6 x per week day, 10 per weekend and will grow when BACX pull out in March(Aviance) Monarch (Aviance) VLM 5 daily 5 at the weekend (Aviance) Channel Express 4 nightly frt flt's BIG MONEY little overheads (Aviance) Iberworld (Aviance) Air Europa (Aviance) LTE and BHAir (Aviance)!! Guess who has won two baggage handling contracts at LPL?

AVIANCE

Who will be the only handling agent at LPL with full handling status. NO! now don't be silly, it ain't Servisair!.

Keep up the good work
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CUMBERLAND!! SAUSAGE!

Trust me, my love for Servisair has nothing to do with this,

These carriers you mention, are obviousley charter carriers, which are not regular daily operaters, Euromanx is the only one that is regular aswell as the freighters, unless it's changes in the last week or so, Euromanx is handled by Servisair.. BACX untill they pull out are handle by Servisair... carriers such as Ryanair and Easyjet are regular at the airport and come winter all your wonderful Aviance handled BUCKET &SPADE flts will be be cut dramatically, hope they make money with the baggage handlling and the freighters,

CHEERS!!!

P.S i take offence at you saying i LOVE Servisair LOL
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Old 3rd Feb 2004, 20:28
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No, euromanx have been handled by Aviance from the start of December, VLM sheduled..

I wonder what other airports will have done low low deals for special airlines? Some in the northwest of the UK?
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Old 4th Feb 2004, 04:39
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i take it its because they dnt have enough staff? who has the say so on whether servisair keep their operating license is it NCL airport or an external authority??
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CUMBERLAND

A collegue of mine at LPL informs me that Euromanx are handled by Aviance sorry for me saying that Servisair handle them, but they used to only a month or so ago, the Monarch contract has also been recently transferred to Aviance, I contacted him today on purpose to find this out, fair enough they handle the charter traffic but lets be honest here, in the winter you and I both know that its gonna drop at least 75% it's a fact, so maybe the money they make is by doing baggage handling, coz the charter traffic isn't the best money maker,

CHEERS!!!!

P.S sorry for the confusion,,

P.S I still take offence that you think I love Servisair!!!!!!!!
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Old 5th Feb 2004, 02:22
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So then cumberland buff, what else do you have planned in lpl.

more airlines in the pipeline
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Thats all I have for now my little sausage
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Heard that servisair in Newcastle in lot of trouble due to staffing levels. There is a threat that their licence to operate at the airport will be withdrawn
Care to explain your sources? Seems a rather vicious rumour, but i could be wrong?
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Old 6th Feb 2004, 01:46
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what is happening at Newcastle??
where did you get your info from??

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Old 6th Feb 2004, 07:22
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According to a scource friend of mine at SNBrussells, Servisair at NCL are not all their cut up to be, and that they are having probs, I worked there for a month approx 4yrs ago now and everything seemed fine to me, would like to know whats happening though.

CHEERS!!!!!
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Old 6th Feb 2004, 15:03
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cumberland.

my big sausage. i thought you might like to see the following:

So...we are concentrating exclusively on "the best Cumberland Sausage you've ever tasted"

ps. i missed the web address off:

www.cumberland-sausage.net

i'll see you in hangar 4 next week. my big sausage.
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Old 6th Feb 2004, 23:32
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CWLLPL:

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