French licence conversion to CAA UK
 

Hi,
i have a french EASA 66 licence and i want to convert it into a CAA UK licence...could you help me and give some informations for how i have to do?
Thanks.

Masen

i wonder why that might be:rolleyes:

Funny day today, keep running into "things" that for some reason irritate me immensely.

:Esorry guys, Sorry if my question offended you so... If you cannot help me, you can see overthere if i'm...:*

Masen,
If you are holder of a EASA Part 66 you should have seen the Form 19.
There is no way to convert the 66 to another country.

No-hoper

I agree with your comment on Part 66 Form 19s.

However...

Below is a FAQ page from EASA's Standardisation website. Please scroll down to Question/Answer #17. What does EASA actually state about Part 66 licences issued by different NAAs? (Note: This information has been published for 5 years, so if it were incorrect surely it would not be included.)


Rulemaking | Frequently Asked Questions (F.A.Q.)


BAe

Thanks a lot BAE146 for your help...:D

BAe,point # 17 is interesting-no doubt.The idea in 2005 was to enable the conversion of a national AML to a Part 66 of another country.But if you once received a Part 66 you have to deal with the authorities of the issuing country.My AML was converted in 1995 to another country-
was a nightmare !
Then the AML was converted to JAR 66 -a bigger nightmare !
JAR 66 to EASA Part 66 was ok...
Due to my own licence history i was always involved in the changes of
regulations.I never heard of a conversion of a Part 66 from one country to
another one.

Masen,good luck and pls keep us updated

OK no-hoper. I sent a message to the CAA and i hope the answer will be quick...i'm keeping you in touch...THANKS

I somehow know what the answer from PLD will be...

Likewise Bus. If people were to remember the converted FAA A&P approved personnel to Part 66 B1 British Airways & Virgin Atlantic staff of 2006, anything is possible for the right amount ££££. Thank Christ these UKCAA staff don't actually maintain live aircraft as they (and EASA) appear barely fit to regulate us.

BAe

what is the point of converting a License ???

I can just guess that there is one company that is looking for engineers, they approve few kind of license and also EASA issued in UK
For Europe companies it doesnt mater witch country issued EASA license they want just EASA

regards

I can understand the problems you will have, as France prior to EASA didn't have national licences just approvals, I know an engineer that tried to convert his approvals over before EASA and got nowhere.

Similarly, secondhand, I was informed of a UK CAA licence holder of a full Danish EASA licence, having to sit courses in the UK to remove the limitations he didn't have on his Danish licence because on conversion the Danes did not add any to his Licence, before the UK would issue him a full UK EASA licence, (because in the UK they would have put the limitations on his Licence), all because he wanted to work back in the UK and they wouldn't recognise the none limited Danish Licence...... Even though he had in effect a clean EASA Licence...........

Hope you understand that.

Even UK licence holders have problems with the CAA when it comes to licence/type issue & restriction removal. If the history of you obtaining your EASA licence doesn't include the passing of all the modules, and the experience required, in accordance with whats on the CAA website....I foresee problems with you converting to a UK license.

You may not understand this, though some of the UK guys will, do you have Masons in France??

everybody knows that we understand nothing in France.
can you remind me where Toulouse is ?
nodrama , are you looking for a conversion to building houses and buildings ?
do you know uk guys that everything in France is out of charges according licenses ?
cheers.

Your point being?? one could say it would just be a glorified tube train without the wings from the UK, the engines from UK and USA, and all of the other assemblies and sub assemblies built around the world..... there is a difference between "building aircraft" and simply putting together a kit of parts from the rest of the world..

We were not having a pop at him, just pointing out the difficulties he would incur, he asked and everyone answered honestly..

was a referral to Free Masons, and their alleged ability to 'get things done' where others fail, due to their associated contacts within the society. It is rumoured that there may be such people within the CAA (:eek:)......

not such a dig at the French now, is it? Feel better?

Jepp, although asked a thousand times before by you,
I will help you out.
approx 43 deg 36'36 N / 1 deg 26'34 E

Hope this helps

@ no-hoper this is the answer of the caa and bus429 you was right:

"Dear Sir

There are currently no provisions with the regulation for a change of state of licence issue.

The Part-66 Aircraft Maintenance Licence is recognised in all Member States and it is not necessary to change the document.

Many thanks

Mrs C Mundie
L&TS"


masen

My problem is mr nutloose, that when i want to work in Malaysia or an other contry in asia, they refused licence EASA except that resulting in Great britain.
All company there want only work with B1 EASA licence issued in UK ...I have the same licence with an british mechanic and i don't understand why this segregation....

masen

From an earlier post therefore it is hard to judge at what level these approved persons were at when they were given their licences, all UK issued licences were gained by examination after examination after examination.

This is not a slight against anyone just as it is seen by employers looking for certain qualities.

My question to the CAA:

"Hi Mrs Mundie,
but why in Malaysia or other contry in asia, they refused licence EASA except that resulting in Great britain?
Regards."


The answer of the CAA:
"Dear Sir

We regret we are unable to comment on the requirements of other countries. We can only re-iterate that there is no provision within the Regulation for Change of State of licence issue.

Many thanks

Mrs C Mundie
L&TS"


No comment!

help with info to convert My ICAO license to EASA - Page 2 - Aircraft Engineers Bulletin Board

converting my French license , i would say : NFI.
now , if somebody wants to test the quality of my way of working , no probs , send me a ticket and you will see ...
PS: you can choose between these types to test me : 330 , 340 , 340-500/600 , 767 , 747 , 744 and 777 ... or all of them , if you want ! or ask me to do a lockwiring by hand with closed eyes ...
Cheers and Brgds.
MM.

matmax have you ever worked for a quality company or do you jump ship before they catch you out?

The whole point is that certain Eu countries licenses (France etc) were considered not as good as other countries (UK etc), so after the conversion to a 'level playing field' for EASA licenses, some countries engineers got a full B1/B2 on the basis of what they currently held, and the fact that certain countries (UK) had a world recognised exam path to get those licenses meant that the new JAR66 is only worth having if issued in certain countries. I do not mean to put down engineers from any particular country but you can see that the path to achieve the old licences were a bit different across Europe so how they can issue a common licence based on them is beyond belief....it is now showing up in job adverts as you have seen....

SC,
you are welcome.
my previous companies : ek and af ...
quality companies ?
is it a proposal?

madmax my question still stands. AF well you could write a book about them.

Mates,
go on thinking you are the only one , you will go far.
i have helped some Brits who made some mistakes before and i am still helping some nowadays not only because i am their Shift Manager but thats a way of thinking ... and i am not taking myself for God as some other guys here ...
do you need names and places and companies ?
it is not because a country got a Licensing system before another one that their Engineers are "better"...
was it a proof that you were not a butcher or a baker ?
have a look on your ex-colonies , some of their Engineers have a higher level ... think about it !
Cheers and Brgds.
MM.

SC,
about AF , the launch company of the 777-300 ER , who never land before the runway because of frozen fuel in the engines ...
AF , the first european airlines for the 380 .
I am not working for AF anymore ...
any thing to say about EK ?
ah yes , they are dreaming to be an airline like AF ...
a book can not be written about BA ?
SC , we are going to drift from the thread.

madmax, BA wrote the book.

SC,
first of all , if you are really 55 , you get my respect.
second , "BA wrote the book" , that was easy but well played (are you really sure ?) ...
third , my question still stands , is it a proposal ?
good !!! i get a new friend !!!
i was not here for nothing or to be banned ...
Cheers and Brgds.
MM.

BA wrote the book ...

from wikipedia (sorry in French):

British Airways est la troisième compagnie aérienne européenne après le groupe Air France-KLM et l'allemand Lufthansa.

they also say that BA was created in 1974 and AF in 1933.
SC , Who wrote the book ???
Cheers and Brgds.
MM.

madmax your history is as sound as the maginot line.

Imperial Airways (1924) eventually became BA

Who wrote the book?

SC ,
you are right about Imperial Airways , as per wikipedia , but sorry sir , even my son who is 7 years , can read the difference between Imperial Airways and British Airways ...
sorry about my arrogancy , i have learned that when i was in very hot place , close to hell with some Br....h guys ...
can you , anyway understand this :
British Airways est la troisième compagnie aérienne européenne après le groupe Air France-KLM et l'allemand Lufthansa
if you need a translation , it will be a pleasure for me to help.
as i said we are drifting ...

wiki also says : BA , 234 A/C and AF , 413 ...
is it comparable ?

nearly double for the frenchies , nope ?

I see we're back to the same old arguement again.:ugh:

Nobody is boasting or saying who's better than who. The system is such that employers in certain countries prefer people with licences from certain other countries, rightly or wrongly that is a fact.:sad:

yes , spanners maybe wrongly ...
anyway , not a big deal for me.
how can you judge without knowing ?
UK or France , are we not both europeans ? and we are using the same money ... oooppss , sorry .
from NWT : The whole point is that certain Eu countries licenses (France etc) were considered not as good as other countries (UK etc) ...
consideration is a feeling (and not certain) , not a fact !
Cheers and Brgds.
MM.