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shuchim 4th Feb 2008 04:25

indian aircraft maintenance exam one of toughest exam in world
 
hi guys i have done maintenance engineering from dgca and found it very hard to clear even 50 year old guys give exam and rarely clear it .pls give your views how r your country exams .

stevef 4th Feb 2008 05:27

If you study hard, there's no reason to fail.
(UK CAA licence holder)

Vortechs Jenerator 4th Feb 2008 09:21

UK CAA, JAR & EASA....

Piece of Piss!

Hermie 4th Feb 2008 16:33

Out of curiosity ? What are the modules that are tested for the exams ?

shuchim 5th Feb 2008 07:40

in FAA,JAA,EASA all r provided question bank by reading all pass the exam and they have to study there own country books but we have to study both FAAandCAA books and also not provided question bank and questions r also sometime out of syllabus .and after this all then some one can tell he need determination or what because by saying like this it is simple and to do acctully that work is diffrent.

doppleganger 5th Feb 2008 11:52

Do you do the exams in English?

shuchim 5th Feb 2008 14:33

ya . now a days i think every country have a exams in english only ;;;;;?

Vortechs Jenerator 5th Feb 2008 16:55

shuchim

indian aircraft maintenance exam one of toughest exam in world
All joking aside shuchim - are you touting for work on here?

Are you seriously proposing that Indian LAE's are the best in the world with their most difficult exams ever, ever, ever?:rolleyes:

If your study material is CAA/JAA/FAA based - you don't need to be provided with answers to a question bank (who is BTW? - you think the CAA give us any?), the internet (that you are clearly happily using) is chock full of answers to all Q banks.

Passing exams is about 20% of being an accomplished LAE. Your still at the bottom of a steep learning curve when the ink is still wet on your shiney new pass paper.

I'm struggling to be impressed by this boastful, childish post.

empire4 5th Feb 2008 22:16

shuchim,

I'm an australian LAE and although i havn't done any Indian exams i have worked with a few Indian LAE's and they all lack on aussie guys. One guy i worked with couldn't even open a 744 door from outside although he was licenced on the A/C.

Another gent i work with now was doing the exams you speak of and came to OZ because he refused to pay the bribe to pass. He is a smart man and is now Licenced on 744, but told me he couldn't pass your exams because he didn't pay to!

Having our CASA lining up with EASA and JAR i find it extremely hard to believe you can make a statment like that. We don't get exam Questions at all, and most GA guys have to study text to pass.

shuchim 6th Feb 2008 00:41

i dont mean to say that the indians r best engineers in world.i just want to tell that exam prepare to judge there knowledge r maken so hard that is of no need and only practicle is thing that matter and that what DGCA lack to judge like empire tell about one engineer cant open the outside bolt that where DGCA lack. but the other guy who said he cant pay the bribe is rubbish there is no such thing. and about CAA some one said that you join a site(i forgot the name)and u will get all question of session.

Jibroni 6th Feb 2008 03:43

I remember when i did my BCARS Sec L's, we were never given any questions by the training school. We had to compile our own question banks. Our written passing rates were so good that even the training school compiled our question banks. During trainings things were on a need to know basis but after getting my ticket, most of what i learned on a need to know basis before, now became a good to know basis.

There are many things that makes a person good at what he/she does and passing difficult exams is not top of the list. Exams are just like firewalls only to be broken down in time. What counts most is attitude,common sense, responsible and great sense of humor.

jnignon 6th Feb 2008 16:02

cmon folks the guy said the exam was hard not that indians engineers are better. I took and passed the Faa exam with flying colours. And to be honest, I thought that was the easiest thing I have done my whole life. The FAA basicaly gives you all the answers to the exam. The practical is easy too. Does that make us FAA license holder less competent than the rest of the world???

shuchim 6th Feb 2008 16:52

ya that what i mean to say what jnignon saying that exam dont make good engineers but the thing is that why dont theDGCA be same as FAAorJAA make paper easy that because he might want to make his reputation as toughtest.as u may also see in pilot cpl paper indian exam is consider difficult than other country exam except the CASA.if u see indian technician r much more better than engineers in practicle but it doesnt matter if u dont have paper pass with u.and if paper made easy technician can be best enginer

jnignon 7th Feb 2008 02:51

you are absolutely right smudgethecat. The FAA A/P is the easiest exam anyone can pass.

lordofthewings 13th Feb 2008 13:39

Just got home from being on the piss and started reading this crap...
Fu..en should have stayed on the piss...

boshank 8th Mar 2008 06:13

some of the EASA course was tough for me, MOD 3 (electrics) being 1 of them, its all magic to me!! still managed to get 90% mind

you don't really start learning untill you get on the job, the course is just a fundamental thing to help you get a foot in the door, although it does count as part of experiance.

there does seem to be a fair ammount of disdain for people who get into the industry this way on this site though, i think most people here were either appos or ex RAF. i'm pretty sure that if there was the ammount of aprentice scheems running today as there was a few years ago we would all have done it that way.

WOTME? 8th Mar 2008 22:31

You wouldn't have got into the RAF with spelling like that.
Unless of course you were pis$ed whilst typing.

courseitsfixed 8th Mar 2008 23:39

Indian Engineers
 
Have just done 6 months in India and I can say that the local engineers in my location did not do a lot of work or have much knowledge,it was more a case of shouting at the technician and only getting the hands out of the pocket to sign tech log...............
The DGCA in same location were a bunch of clowns as well.:mad:

Not saying all Indian Engineers are bad but its difficult to find really good ones,suspect all the good ones went overseas to ME.............:ok:

al446 9th Mar 2008 19:16

Wotme - Cosford or Halton?

Beeline 12th Mar 2008 11:43

Im glad the CAA still have the high standards and a respected AML across the world, even with the changes implemented by EASA I still think they are policing it the best they can to a section L level.

Making exams easier anywhere in the world is an outrageous suggestion, get in the books for longer and study harder, there is no shortcuts to learning standard practices and maintaining aircraft in the correct way.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

A&P coversion to full Part-66 eeekk

H245synchor 27th Mar 2008 04:53

Hi Shachim
 
You are a sagol.

The Dodger 27th Mar 2008 15:49


Making exams easier anywhere in the world is an outrageous suggestion, get in the books for longer and study harder, there is no shortcuts to learning standard practices and maintaining aircraft in the correct way. :D

I fully agree with you there Beeline. I just do not understand why all the worlds Aviation regulators can't get together and come up with some sort of licence examination system, that is the same for all Aircraft Engineers, worldwide. I have been in the RAF up until recently but I had no idea of how intense the studying for a B1 licence is. I am just getting my head around maths again, and I thought I was ok at it. When I was a fresh faced mechanic in the RAF many moons ago. I worked on a large aircraft fleet in the RAF, which had all of it's primary maintenance done by a sub contractor( mentioning no names ) who employed alot of engineers from eastern countries. Now at the time I thought that all civvy engineers were the best of the best no matter where they came from, because of all the exams and training they did, however that was brought back to earth with a bump, after what I saw. The contractor used to send some blokes over to the UK some times to work on fuel tank repairs. On one occasion they had to get into one of the large fuel tanks. All was going well at the time, they opend the tank and let the fuel vapours vent out for 24 hours. However when they finally decided to get into the tank to have a look, they decided to use for illumination, a normal garage inspection lamp, with the most bodged electricle supply cable you could imagine:eek:. I have never run, or seen people run so fast in all my life. Even though the tank had been vented, the risk from fuel vapours was still too great. The blokes in question left very quickly out the front gate after that, never to return. Apparently they had maintenance licences also, which shocked me even more.

shuchim 4th Apr 2008 13:00

is there still apprentership in usa and uk

IFixPlanes 4th Apr 2008 17:58


Originally Posted by shuchim
is there still apprentership in usa and uk

It is one way to get into business (EASA) :ok:

shuchim 10th Apr 2008 01:45

any one from any country is in india right now and working for indian carrier pls tell?

shuchim 20th Apr 2008 14:27

hi can any one tell how cathy pasific is to work for in india and where experience will i get if i work in cathey pacific in india is it of dgca .india or caa

spannersatcx 27th Apr 2008 18:24

Cathay Pacific operates under HKG CAD regulations.

shuchim 20th May 2008 07:40

i put resume/cv everywhere but no reply why so is the demand over now?

HAWK21M 17th Nov 2008 06:45

Lets put it this way.....
exams questions are formatted differently,but if one studies hard,passing it is not tough.

On the question of AME working in India,Its true most AMEs supervise the work done by Technicians......But there are exceptions Too......Some work with their hands & sign docs too.....You need to meet them :ok:

regds
MEL

MD11Engineer 17th Nov 2008 09:50


On the question of AME working in India,Its true most AMEs supervise the work done by Technicians......But there are exceptions Too......Some work with their hands & sign docs too.....You need to meet them

regds
MEL
We had some contractors on our line station with a "Monsieur le Inspecteur" attitude. They expected to walk just around with torch, mirror and stamp and let the unlicenced mechs do all the work, especially if the job was going to be dirty. Needless to say that they didn't last long.
Here everybody has to pull his weight.

NutLoose 17th Nov 2008 10:57


al446Wotme - Cosford or Halton?
St Athans :}

shuchim 17th Nov 2008 13:30

in my company most engineers love to do job with there own hand

shuchim 17th Nov 2008 13:33

hi mr hawk r u engineer? if u dont mind can u pls tell in which airline u r in throgh pm...........

HAWK21M 19th Nov 2008 08:15

The Airline which has no hard working folks in Mx won't survive for long.
Yes.I'm an AME licenced in Cat A&C...currently working on B737/757 freighters at Mumbai.
regds
MEL

shuchim 19th Nov 2008 09:09

mr hawk nice to see that such a experienced person is between us who can guide the new kids like me.

6680740 19th Nov 2008 13:25

Hello
 
Hi Guys

I passed my Indian exams, in 1998 and I agree with the previous posters, that the exam in purely theoritical and completely irrelevant. Unfortunately most engineers never ever touch tools but thats how it is in India. If u have the past examination questions, cram for a month u are sure to pass.

I later on got licenses from the UK, Australia and New zealand. Now these exams cannot be passed without hands on experience.

So guys having been there and done that I can vouch that the Indian exam is not at all difficult and infact a very simple exam to pass. On the same token if you need to work in India, u have to play by their rules.:ok:

regards
6680740

HAWK21M 29th Nov 2008 17:45

Remember Hard work pays....It may take time but it does.
Study well,Work with your hands too,remember practice makes perfect.
Understandably most AMEs out here supervise & Techs work....But there are a few that do the work with their hands too.
Its a good way to work.....I follow the A&P style of work & it is very sucessfull.
regds
MEL

shuchim 1st Dec 2008 09:45

nice say mr hawk

SNS3Guppy 3rd Dec 2008 08:11

One can take short courses and pass the FAA exams. I didn't do that, but instead spent a year studying before taking the writtens, then a year preparing for the practical...after working as a mechanic's assistant (apprentice) for seven years. The FAA and the practical test examiner told me that's not the norm, but I didn't want to show up unprepared. My oral exam lasted about eight hours, plus a long practical test that involved timing magnetos, inspecting an aircraft, researching AD's, riveting, bending metal, balancing a propeller, etc.

I know nothing about the Indian exam, but I'd say for any practical test, one should always show up prepared.

HAWK21M 6th Dec 2008 06:47

Paitence to learn.Working with ones hands & willing to ask questions are important steps to be a good AME/AMT.
regds
MEL


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