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Old 20th Feb 2011, 20:23
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Do a bit of study pass a few exams and a pen and stamp is all you need.
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Old 21st Feb 2011, 01:09
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I fully agree with ‘DERG’ in his post #11, Stahlwille make an excellent range of high quality handtools that are greatly underappreciated.

A word of advice, if I may, to those of you buying tools for the first time, a) always get the very best you afford, even if this means buying only one or two at a time, good quality handtools, used properly, will last you your entire careeer, b) avoid 6-point spanners and sockets, 12-point items will give you much greater flexibility in confined spaces and, c) when buying Philips screwdrivers, take along a few sample Philips-head screws (from ‘your’ aircraft type/s) and ensure that the tip of the screwdriver is a snug fit in the head of the screw, if it isn’t you’ll spend a inordinate amount of time trying to remove damaged screws.
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Old 21st Feb 2011, 17:18
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I like the hex sockets better personally, but most of the stuff we work on is 20 plus year old. I know what you mean though. If the bolt is good quality with no corrosion then fine.
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DERG, Earlier today, in response to someone's advice on your shot-gun postings, you replied -

Thanks for the advice. Got an appointment with the doc in early March
Then here - "I like the hex sockets better personally, but most of the stuff we work on is 20 plus year old".

You don't, and never have, worked on anything connected with aircraft: you've told us that on previous posts. Please stop.

If anyone thinks I'm being 'unkind' then check his posts for today.
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Pens are dangerous things.. When the sharp pen gets discovered!!

You right, forget. What a load of twaddle.
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Old 22nd Feb 2011, 05:40
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Airfix

Excuse me every week when I was a kid I bought an Airfix plastic model that had to be glued together.

forget

This is a public website. If you do not think I am qualified to comment on here please make a formal complaint. I have told you this before yet you persist in personal harassment.

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Old 22nd Feb 2011, 07:47
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PERRIN

Lets keep the tools (I mean TOYS) in the pram boys. Good A/C engineers never lose it!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 22nd Feb 2011, 09:00
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Eye Sight Problems

This the most annoying issue when some of us beyond a certain age. The manufacturers persist is using small stampings for the sizes. The "CRAFTSMAN" socket set has big sand etched sizes on them..this is the best innovation I have seen on handtools and is very welcome. And before someone kicks up about keeping them in an orderly fashion so you can just pick em up and know what size it is...well fine..but I am far from perfect
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Old 23rd Feb 2011, 09:02
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Just to expand on the 6 versus 12 point socket discussion. I would say that for 3/16th and below stick to 6 point. Yes I know it's not a common size for most people to deal with but, if you ever have to remove an electrical connector from a bracket or bulkhead the bolts will be hex and 12 point sockets will just mangle them.

I have a lot of Proto sockets and spanners, never let me down. I would suggest getting really good ratchet handles and then buy medium quality sockets. If a socket breaks on you then replace that size with Snap-On or Craftsman or the ilk. Ratchet screwdriver? Well got to be Snap-On, preferably the older style on with the plastic handle, not the newer ergonomic disaster with the changeable shaft....
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Old 23rd Feb 2011, 09:55
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The other reason in favour of the hex is when you are dealing with bolts made in the east. I mean Japan basically or any of the stuff made in that area of the pacific.

The bolts have an arc on the edges so the duohex..the 12 pointer.. cannot effectively seat on the bolt edges.

Nest time you see an eastern made product have a look and you will see exactly what I mean. Rounded corners on the edges of the bolt head.

If these bolts have had a 12 point key on them they are often trashed.
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Old 23rd Feb 2011, 14:36
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Well... thankfully aircraft hardware is made to much higher standards than something you'd find on a Kia Shuma or Honda 90.
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Apart from fairing panel screw heads which, for every 1 in 50, are made of chocolate - and they will always be the last one you are trying to undo...
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Old 23rd Feb 2011, 20:37
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I would say that for 3/16th and below stick to 6 point.
Agreed, never thought much of it I tend to use my nut drivers below 1/4 allot more and they are all 6 pt. Freakin airbus, the relay machine!
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