Factual Engineer-like Discussion. Subject EK!
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Factual Engineer-like Discussion. Subject EK!
Moderators, please accept a secondary thread for a more direct discussion about conditions within EK Engineering.
Illuminating the reality behind the lines is just one of many advantages we have as employees in this day an age, using tools like this.
Providing fellow engineers with insider info is obviously invaluable. It can change or reinforce the massive decisions that affect our family, our finances & ultimately our happiness. This ain’t just a case of switching jobs. For us its nearly always another city, country or continent!
I’ve stopped prospective engineers from joining the wrong agencies (& getting in with the right ones) using threads and PM’s.
I wonder if we could get this discussion back on track?
There are some fellow engineers at EK who aren’t having a good time. Most of us have been there at some time or another & it ain’t fun. I totally empathise, I’m going though it presently too.
On the flip-side, I’m sure a lot of guys are thinking about making the big jump over there, myself included. Europe is still pretty poor, leave-alone the UK. I personally would really appreciate any heads-up that you can provide.
To the EK guys on this forum, I assume you work the line. I heard it’s a hell of a pressure cooker. Could you share your experience of the line on an average day-to-day basis?
Can’t be as bad as Etihad can it?
I’ve heard that heavy maintenance is a nice little set up. Do you know anyone working the hangars? What do they think?
And what about light maintenance?
If other departments are OK, it wouldn’t be fitting to there respective managers or guys desperately looking for work, to tar all of EK engineering with the same brush.
Better stick it on a thread rather than a PM.
We engineers are more coarse & fouled-mouthed than your average smooth-talking driver but we have some intelligence. We should be sticking together.
If it is that bad at EK, it should be broadcast. At worse, you may change the mind of an engineer or two, at best, a management re-think.
Facts guys –Think you’ve already enlightened us on the demographic out there!
Thanks in advance.
Illuminating the reality behind the lines is just one of many advantages we have as employees in this day an age, using tools like this.
Providing fellow engineers with insider info is obviously invaluable. It can change or reinforce the massive decisions that affect our family, our finances & ultimately our happiness. This ain’t just a case of switching jobs. For us its nearly always another city, country or continent!
I’ve stopped prospective engineers from joining the wrong agencies (& getting in with the right ones) using threads and PM’s.
I wonder if we could get this discussion back on track?
There are some fellow engineers at EK who aren’t having a good time. Most of us have been there at some time or another & it ain’t fun. I totally empathise, I’m going though it presently too.
On the flip-side, I’m sure a lot of guys are thinking about making the big jump over there, myself included. Europe is still pretty poor, leave-alone the UK. I personally would really appreciate any heads-up that you can provide.
To the EK guys on this forum, I assume you work the line. I heard it’s a hell of a pressure cooker. Could you share your experience of the line on an average day-to-day basis?
Can’t be as bad as Etihad can it?
I’ve heard that heavy maintenance is a nice little set up. Do you know anyone working the hangars? What do they think?
And what about light maintenance?
If other departments are OK, it wouldn’t be fitting to there respective managers or guys desperately looking for work, to tar all of EK engineering with the same brush.
Better stick it on a thread rather than a PM.
We engineers are more coarse & fouled-mouthed than your average smooth-talking driver but we have some intelligence. We should be sticking together.
If it is that bad at EK, it should be broadcast. At worse, you may change the mind of an engineer or two, at best, a management re-think.
Facts guys –Think you’ve already enlightened us on the demographic out there!
Thanks in advance.
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Regarding the Emirates vs. Etihad question;
From what I hear none of the guys that resigned at EK and went to Etihad is happy there. Spoke to an ex Etihad guy at EK the other day and he confirmed that Etihad was worse than EK. Bear in mind this is hear-say, I can't comment on Etihad since I have never worked there.
EK Line maintenance is a hell of a pressure cooker indeed.
Some of the guys get rostered to do up to 18 aircraft in a 12 hr shift. These aircraft are not necessarily on parking bays that’s located close to each other. It takes quite a considerable time to get from one end of the airport to the other so you do the math regarding how much time you have at an aircraft.
Line maint vs. Base ops vs. Heavy maint;
If I ever had to relocate to DXB I would prefer to work in Base ops. Knowing a heavy maint environment and knowing what happens on the line in DXB that would be my only choice. Some guys prefer heavy maint but that’s just my personal choice. Apparently the guys in heavy maint are for the most part quite happy there (different shifts etc).
At the moment it is not always 'nice' to work for EK (in certain sections) and I think a lot of the guys there/here will agree with that. It is however still a good option and if staff numbers improve it might get better. Biggest problem is that most of the guys out there, not currently working at EK already, tend to stay away. Some of my previous posts showed how I feel about EK but I deleted alot of it to try and save my skin (as I am now doing with this edit).
If you have to go on a recruitment drive and only a few people show up you know word of mouth is against you. This should prompt you to rethink how you treat your staff ... note the SHOULD...
If you are Etihad, EK is (apparently) a better choice.
I don't want to scare you off but don't come to EK disillusioned.
Good luck with your big jump. Don't miss the ledge, its narrow.
From what I hear none of the guys that resigned at EK and went to Etihad is happy there. Spoke to an ex Etihad guy at EK the other day and he confirmed that Etihad was worse than EK. Bear in mind this is hear-say, I can't comment on Etihad since I have never worked there.
EK Line maintenance is a hell of a pressure cooker indeed.
Some of the guys get rostered to do up to 18 aircraft in a 12 hr shift. These aircraft are not necessarily on parking bays that’s located close to each other. It takes quite a considerable time to get from one end of the airport to the other so you do the math regarding how much time you have at an aircraft.Line maint vs. Base ops vs. Heavy maint;
If I ever had to relocate to DXB I would prefer to work in Base ops. Knowing a heavy maint environment and knowing what happens on the line in DXB that would be my only choice. Some guys prefer heavy maint but that’s just my personal choice. Apparently the guys in heavy maint are for the most part quite happy there (different shifts etc).
At the moment it is not always 'nice' to work for EK (in certain sections) and I think a lot of the guys there/here will agree with that. It is however still a good option and if staff numbers improve it might get better. Biggest problem is that most of the guys out there, not currently working at EK already, tend to stay away. Some of my previous posts showed how I feel about EK but I deleted alot of it to try and save my skin (as I am now doing with this edit).
If you have to go on a recruitment drive and only a few people show up you know word of mouth is against you. This should prompt you to rethink how you treat your staff ... note the SHOULD...
If you are Etihad, EK is (apparently) a better choice.
I don't want to scare you off but don't come to EK disillusioned.Good luck with your big jump. Don't miss the ledge, its narrow.
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What about EK line vs GF line? GF had just re-evaluated salaries and boost them for some departments including technical, that should be equal to EK or even better considering that living expenses in Bahrain is relatively cheaper.
On the other hand, Gulf Air is also short of qualified manpower, and it's line is also stressful but Bahrain Airport is waaay smaller than DXB's and GF fleet is waaaay smaller than EK's, and I'm not sure but I don't think there's as much racism and lobbying and gang-related issues as EK and -of course- the worst of them all military-like airline.. QR ..
why not consider GF for the big jump? (big refers to distance)
On the other hand, Gulf Air is also short of qualified manpower, and it's line is also stressful but Bahrain Airport is waaay smaller than DXB's and GF fleet is waaaay smaller than EK's, and I'm not sure but I don't think there's as much racism and lobbying and gang-related issues as EK and -of course- the worst of them all military-like airline.. QR ..
why not consider GF for the big jump? (big refers to distance)
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I worked there in early 2000s and heard it is no better on the line now. I understand that there are too few engineers, too few cars, no refreshment facilities (in fact, rumour has it one manager told a staff member that they should not eat or drink on shift) and not much time to pursue deferred defects. Morale on the line is apparently rock-bottom and it appears the "managers" conspire to see how much more miserable they can make the situation.
EK and EY are all image and no substance.
Not all of us! 
EK and EY are all image and no substance.
We engineers are more coarse & fouled-mouthed than your average smooth-talking driver...
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Food for thought.
Can't be many places on earth where hangar beats line!
How is it that the line managers can demand their guys work without pay?
What happens if one refuses OT?
Any old-timers out there feel that DXB's climate trend is on the up, in-line with what's happening most places nowadays?
60 degrees in 2030 perhaps?
Can't be many places on earth where hangar beats line!
How is it that the line managers can demand their guys work without pay?
What happens if one refuses OT?
Any old-timers out there feel that DXB's climate trend is on the up, in-line with what's happening most places nowadays?
60 degrees in 2030 perhaps?
