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As Removed, Repaired and Overhauled

Old 15th Sep 2010, 15:46
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As Removed, Repaired and Overhauled

So I am about to buy an aircraft part to install on my brand new A320.... (I wish) anyway the company is a well known parts distributer.

But if I buy the part in As Removed condition what am I actually getting???

Where does it tell me the definition for the terms as removed, repaired, overhauled etc.
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Old 15th Sep 2010, 17:41
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In Europe for an EASA Form 1 the definitions are as follows

Block 12 The following words in quotation marks, with their definitions, indicate the status of the item being released.
One or a combination of these words shall be stated in this block:
1. OVERHAULED
The restoration of a used item by inspection, test and replacement in conformity with an approved standard (*) to
extend the operational life.
2. INSPECTED/TESTED
The examination of an item to establish conformity with an approved standard (*).
3. MODIFIED
The alteration of an item in conformity with an approved standard (*).
4. REPAIRED
The restoration of an item to a serviceable condition in conformity with an approved standard (*).
5. RETREADED
The restoration of a used tyre in conformity with an approved standard (*).
6. REASSEMBLED
The reassembly of an item in conformity with an approved standard (*).
Example: A propeller after transportation.
NOTE: This provision shall only be used in respect of items which were originally fully assembled by the manufacturer in accordance
with manufacturing requirements such as, but not limited to, Part-21.
(*) Approved Standard means a manufacturing/design/maintenance/quality standard approved by the competent
authority.
The above statements shall be supported by reference in Block 13 to the approved data/manual/specification used
during maintenance.
This is for Block 12 of the form, I haven't managed to find the same for the FAA Form 8130-3 though.

This was from page 63 of http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/...en00010165.pdf which is EC Reg 2042/2003.

I'd contact the supplier and ask what you're getting as my interpretation of their condition would be that they'd need overhauling or inspecting/testing to establish their servicability before use.
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Old 15th Sep 2010, 22:44
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Agreed.
No Release Certificate issued for the parts - Not certified for installation and will at least require inspection (with possible repairs and/or modification) and re-certification prior to use.

Good Luck
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Old 16th Sep 2010, 14:55
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Fargoo,
The EASA Form 1 has changed* and must be used from 28/09/10. "Eligibility" under Block 9 has been removed and the blocks renumbered. Block 11 (as from 28/09/10) has reduced terms to:
  • Inspected/tested
  • Repaired
  • Overhauled
  • Modified
It is very important that you pay attention to Block 12 (nearly formerly Block 13) and the references to work recorded there. If you are getting used/repaired parts from the US (8130-3) or Canada (TCA Form One) check for dual release if fitting to EU commercial or large aircraft under Part 145.

Also, with regard to the information in the certification block 14a, it is very important to note that the form relates to work requested/specified. For example, you could receive a Form 1 for NDT work on a part and that Form 1 will state for the work specified it is released to service but the part could be otherwise unserviceable.
Be careful too with regard to Forms 1 issued under Subpart F: they are identical to those issued under 145 but must have a Part M release in Block 12 and are not acceptable under Part 145.
Bear in mind Forms 1 for new parts are issued under Part 21.
US manufacturers can also issue an FAA 8130-3 for Newly Overhauled items.

* But those issued before that date are valid, of course.
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Old 23rd Sep 2010, 23:01
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This is good info thanks. I wasn't leaning towards EASA Form 1's or 8130's so much but rather a part identification tag issued by a 145 maintenance organisation or a parts distribution company like Unical or AJ Walter.
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Old 26th Sep 2010, 20:17
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Airbirduk. You still require some form of release certificate Easa form 1/ 8130. It is illegal to fit any part to an aircraft without one, regardless of where the part was coming from.
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Old 28th Sep 2010, 12:33
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Further to what Beeline correctly says, if somebody (eg a mechanic at an MRO) removes a serviceable part from an aircraft it should be tagged with relevant details including reason for removal (maintenance convenience etc). This enables him to refit it to the aircraft within the same company without having to issue a component CRS (Form One/8130).

However if the part leaves that company (goes to a distributor for example) no other MRO can accept it on the part tag alone, it must have a CRS. The MRO may see fit to issue its own CRS based on its approvals and inspection of the part by a qualified person in which case for a part removed functioning correctly it may be certified "Inspected". If it's not possible to determine serviceability from a simple inspection this may have to go down the road of tested-repaired-overhauled etc.
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Old 3rd Oct 2010, 15:07
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8130-3 block 12 insturctions

see chapter 3

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgOrders.nsf/0/d159b6829120845386257673006879b7/$FILE/Order8130.21G.pdf

l. Block 12. Status/Work. The following table describes what to enter in a specific
situation. Only one term may be entered in Block 12, which should reflect the majority of the
work performed by the organization. The use of upper or lower case in this block does not
matter.

Enter— For—
“Overhauled” A process that ensures the product or article is in complete
conformity with the applicable service tolerances specified in
the type certificate holder’s or equipment manufacturer’s
instructions for continued airworthiness, or in the data
approved or accepted by the authority. The product or article
will be at least disassembled, cleaned, inspected, repaired as
necessary, reassembled, and tested in accordance with the
approved or accepted data.

“Repaired” Repair of defect(s) using an applicable standard.

“Inspected” or “Tested” Examination or measurement in accordance with an applicable
standard (for example, visual inspection, functional testing, or
bench testing).

“Modified” Alteration of a product or article to conform to an applicable
standard.

“See Block 13” Products or articles rebuilt or altered by authorized PAHs in
accordance with § 43.3(j). Refer to paragraph 3-5m(3).



NOTE: The applicable standard must be described in Block 13.
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Old 4th Oct 2010, 18:27
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Don't forget that if your aircraft is on the G reg. you will require an EASA Form 1 unless the unit is new/manufactured.
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Old 8th Oct 2010, 13:10
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EASA means all aircraft parts require a form one regardless of where the registration is obtained.

Box 13 is dedicated to new parts manufactured under part 21.
Box 14 is the part 145 crs statement

You cross out what box (13 or 14) that is not applicable to the part.

Young engineers do not accept a part that has no certification unless it has the exception of being internally robbed from your own companies aircraft under your own 145 approval. Even then check effectivity, ETOPS compliant etc.
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Old 22nd Oct 2010, 14:43
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Buying an "as removed" part

In addition to all of the above comments, we always insist that the seller (whoever that may be) includes a non-incidence statement with their shipping documentation so that you know you're not getting a unit which has been subjected to stress, heat or abnormal pressure. If in doubt about the trace or source, leave it alone.

Would recommend reading up on this document:

http://www.aviationsuppliers.org/ASA..._AC_00-56A.pdf

The FAA have a good basis (albeit voluntary) to address how distributors without an FAA repair station approval handle aeronautical parts. EASA keep on stating that they'll do the same thing one day, but nothing has happened yet.
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