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Hi,
I am enrolling on a 2yr foundation degree in Aircraft maintenance engineering. I will also then be doing the 3rd year to make it s BSc Degree.
This is the place i am doing it (macclesfield college)... Macclesfield College - EASA Part 66 Modules -
and this is the course outline... https://enrolments.macclesfield.ac.u...rmationID=6216
Will this be a worthwhile degree??
I aim to either work as an aircraft engineer (airbus, boeing etc) or to go into light aircraft (GA). Not sure which yet.
Matt
I am enrolling on a 2yr foundation degree in Aircraft maintenance engineering. I will also then be doing the 3rd year to make it s BSc Degree.
This is the place i am doing it (macclesfield college)... Macclesfield College - EASA Part 66 Modules -
and this is the course outline... https://enrolments.macclesfield.ac.u...rmationID=6216
Will this be a worthwhile degree??
I aim to either work as an aircraft engineer (airbus, boeing etc) or to go into light aircraft (GA). Not sure which yet.
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Depends whether you want too be front line certifying or happy too work in the back office designing/quality side of things, but if your looking too get dirty hands and hands on experience then the A B1 B2 route is the only way too go, i have'nt looked back since, Only because i have a crooked neck lying in puddles underneath engines at 3am thinking what the hell am i doing.......
But that said the licence is well worth having aswell as any additional qualification.
Good luck on your choice
But that said the licence is well worth having aswell as any additional qualification.
Good luck on your choice
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Hi,
Thanks for the reply. Well , id love to be doing the oily stuff rather than sat in an office.
How i read the course is that my 2yr degree will give me credit towards easa 66 as its a part 147 accredited place.
I would then go and get my A1, B1 and B2 omn yr3 BSC i think?
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Thanks for the reply. Well , id love to be doing the oily stuff rather than sat in an office.
How i read the course is that my 2yr degree will give me credit towards easa 66 as its a part 147 accredited place.
I would then go and get my A1, B1 and B2 omn yr3 BSC i think?
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On successful completion of the course you will be awarded an Engineering Foundation Degree validated by MMU.
We are also working closely with the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) to gain EASA pt 147 and credit for specific modules towards the EASA pt 66 License knowledge requirements for certifying maintenance staff.
The Above was copied from the course site.......Important Too Note, Read carefully the underlined text, The College does not yet have 147 approval, as it is stated they are working towards it, and they maybe on the verge of obtaining it, but then again maybe the CAA have Audited the college and have highlighted a few non-conformances, i.e the college might have a way too go yet before achieving its 147, but that said, do all your homework and do not believe everything you are told from a college that is not yet 147 approved, as many colleges will sell you the Earth too get your bum on a seat.
Do not take this post as a critiscm of the college,it is not, just that you need too ask the right questions, as you do not want too waste time doing a course when there might be a better option available too you that is all, this is just my opinion and have learnt from my experience along time ago being told too do a course, which after completing did not enable me too work on Live operational aircraft in a certifying capacity when time had been served.
So had too re-invest in a licencing course to get my B1 sorted.
Find out how far way the college is from gaining their 147, most importantly,check the CAA website to find out the requirements of achieving the B1 / B2 or A Licence.
Again don't be afraid too ask any questions, no question is too daft, better too be an inquisitive individual rather than an ignorant one.
We are also working closely with the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) to gain EASA pt 147 and credit for specific modules towards the EASA pt 66 License knowledge requirements for certifying maintenance staff.
The Above was copied from the course site.......Important Too Note, Read carefully the underlined text, The College does not yet have 147 approval, as it is stated they are working towards it, and they maybe on the verge of obtaining it, but then again maybe the CAA have Audited the college and have highlighted a few non-conformances, i.e the college might have a way too go yet before achieving its 147, but that said, do all your homework and do not believe everything you are told from a college that is not yet 147 approved, as many colleges will sell you the Earth too get your bum on a seat.
Do not take this post as a critiscm of the college,it is not, just that you need too ask the right questions, as you do not want too waste time doing a course when there might be a better option available too you that is all, this is just my opinion and have learnt from my experience along time ago being told too do a course, which after completing did not enable me too work on Live operational aircraft in a certifying capacity when time had been served.
So had too re-invest in a licencing course to get my B1 sorted.
Find out how far way the college is from gaining their 147, most importantly,check the CAA website to find out the requirements of achieving the B1 / B2 or A Licence.
Again don't be afraid too ask any questions, no question is too daft, better too be an inquisitive individual rather than an ignorant one.
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Hi,
Im almost certain they said they are part 147 acceredited and he made a point of saying stuff like "thats why we need these yellow painted lines and blah blah"
Matt
Im almost certain they said they are part 147 acceredited and he made a point of saying stuff like "thats why we need these yellow painted lines and blah blah"
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Check the CAA website and see if they are. They will have a UK.147.----- Approval..
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/177/srg_lt...ster%20v56.pdf
They are listed as a PART 147 organisation for the basic licence. That means a minimum of 2 years PART 145 time required before you can apply for the ticket. If you can complete all the required tasks in that time. Easier in some places than others!
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/177/srg_lt...ster%20v56.pdf
They are listed as a PART 147 organisation for the basic licence. That means a minimum of 2 years PART 145 time required before you can apply for the ticket. If you can complete all the required tasks in that time. Easier in some places than others!
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Just bear in mind theres a huge glut of college sourced licensed engineers at present, there is also a lot of type rated experianced licensed engineers looking for work, the industry in general does not rate engineers who have come the college route so be prepared to struggle, sorry to sound negative but it really is the way it is, and if the colleges tell you any different their lying im afraid
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Simon is absolutely right in what he says. The industry is at the bottom of its boom and bust cycle and nobody can predict when the good times will come back again, especially with the mess European national finanices are in the mo. Companies will pick proven people who "can open the can" over college boys. Remember, the course is a foundation one, it won't make you a competent engineer overnight (thats why 2 years in the industry as a mechanic is the CAA minimum, and lots of people do not get licenced until well after that point, especially now that a lot of companies are not approving people because they do not have the work or budget to do so). I know one MRO in East Anglia (with its own 147 college) hasn't employed any Students this year and my lot only recuirted experienced mechanics/ex forces /best connies...
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Hi,
Thanks for the replies. I'm under no illusions. I fully expected a struggle. Im going to do the foundation degree and then the top up year to makie it a full BSc degree. I would then hopefully be looking around for work and willing to start at the bottom.
Matt
Thanks for the replies. I'm under no illusions. I fully expected a struggle. Im going to do the foundation degree and then the top up year to makie it a full BSc degree. I would then hopefully be looking around for work and willing to start at the bottom.
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Treat the college route as a way to pass the B1.1 exams and nothing more. You should get a certain amount of practical in the course, but it will not really help you get a job. As has been stated above, the industry is on its knees at the moment, so hiding in education is a good way to pass the time if there are no immediate job offers.
Remember that these courses are just a foot in the door - getting the modules will make you more employable than if you were just to turn up, but its the experience which is hard to come by for now. You will have to achieve a minimum of 2 years experience as a mechanic before applying for your licence. In my experience, the normal time is up to the 5 year limit... more experience = better B1 engineer. Even after 5 years you will need to learn VERY quickly in order to keep up with the guys who've been employed for a while...
By the way, I teach on one of the approved courses (not Macclesfield) and have been a student of the same...... I managed to get a job contracting immediately after I left the university and was quite happy building hours until the recent down turn. I was aided by alot of previous experience...
Remember that these courses are just a foot in the door - getting the modules will make you more employable than if you were just to turn up, but its the experience which is hard to come by for now. You will have to achieve a minimum of 2 years experience as a mechanic before applying for your licence. In my experience, the normal time is up to the 5 year limit... more experience = better B1 engineer. Even after 5 years you will need to learn VERY quickly in order to keep up with the guys who've been employed for a while...
By the way, I teach on one of the approved courses (not Macclesfield) and have been a student of the same...... I managed to get a job contracting immediately after I left the university and was quite happy building hours until the recent down turn. I was aided by alot of previous experience...
