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Old 24th Aug 2006, 21:10
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Aeronautical Engineering course

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I am a student who is going to university of salford in september for Aeronautical engineering course. I don't have a good mathematics or mechanics but I have strong self confidence to success.That what I am beLiving. Is mathematics painful for this type of student? I will glad to hear your opinions and how were you successful on this course. Also I have some terms need to have little information about such as: Mechanical Systems; Mechanical Science;Fluid Mechanics;Engineering Methodology;Aerodynamics;Aerofluid Dynamics. and Information Technology(So much to learn) On the other hand what is the difference between aircraft engineering and aeronautical engineering?
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I was a student on an aerospace engineering course a couple of years ago and as far as your question about mathematics goes i found that these types of courses are usually designed with the idea that you already have a solid knowledge of mathematics and physics or at least a basic knowledge. Im not saying you cant succeed but in my experience those who were not particularly strong at mathematics and physics were left behind and ended up either dropping out of the course early or hanging on until the end and failing.

As i said im not saying that the above applies to you but it certainly helps if you have a basic knowledge of these kind of academic areas. You will most likely be on the course with those who have studied mathematics and physics at A level to a high standard.

Best of luck whatever you decide
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Thank you For your repLy.
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Aerospace Engineering WILL require a good soild understanding of maths and physics for you to grasp the core math type modules like any other engineering subject. The static analysis and aerodynamics stuff can also get pretty heavy with equations and derivations from first principles.

Never seen aircraft engineering at a uni, but i imagine any course is more of a maintainance role as a technician.
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I don't mean ı know nothing by saying "bad mathematics" I have mathematical background I have gce's and AS Level mathematics.But its not perfect for example I need to think a lot on a problem.That's what I am worried about.
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Originally Posted by Futureng
hi aLL...
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=#4169e1]I am a student who is going to university of salford in september for Aeronautical engineering course. I don't have a good mathematics or mechanics but I have strong self confidence to success.That what I am beLiving. Is mathematics painful for this type of student? I will glad to hear your opinions and how were you successful on this course. Also I have some terms need to have little information about such as:
Firstly, good luck. Secondly...

Mechanical Systems
How machines work

Mechanical Science
The application of Newtonian mechanics to the interaction of physical objects.

Fluid Mechanics
How to measure and predict the behaviour of fluids (gasses and liquids) as they flow through and around objects (most of this will be either inside pipes or around wings).

Engineering Methodology
Learning how to solve engineering problems - either finding out what's wrong with things, determining what a problem really is, or designing things.

Aerodynamics
Fluid mechanics as applied to air flowing around bits of aeroplane.

Aerofluid Dynamics
Probably just advanced aerodynamics.

Information Technology
How to use computers in your work.

On the other hand what is the difference between aircraft engineering and aeronautical engineering?
Just what somebody decided to call their particular course, although most usually the first term applies to maintenance and operations, and the second to design / build / test.



As to your other questions, if memory serves that course is run by Thurai Rahulan - great chap, excellent aeronautical engineer, pushes his students very hard by reputation. Expect to work harder than you thought possible, learn more than you thought there was to know, graduate realising that there's still huge amounts you don't know - and yes you'll have a great time.

And yes, maths will be an issue. If you do nothing between now and then, brush up your A-level maths, it'll help a lot. Don't worry unduly about the physics, the emphasis will be quite different and so long as you've covered mechanics in your maths and are 100% up to speed on Newtons laws, that's the main physics you'll need.

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FirstLy thanks for your help. It is really helpfull to me.Now i know some terms before going there =) I used to see one thread where asked questions similar to mine. You suggest a book for him written by stroud. Now I am looking around to find it. Can you suggest me a way to be succesfull instead of studying? what else can I do? Also do you know some sources that I utilize about Aeronautical eng.?
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In my opinion, aircraft maintenance is a better option--rest is upto you to decide. best of luck!
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Originally Posted by Futureng
FirstLy thanks for your help. It is really helpfull to me.Now i know some terms before going there =) I used to see one thread where asked questions similar to mine. You suggest a book for him written by stroud. Now I am looking around to find it. Can you suggest me a way to be succesfull instead of studying? what else can I do? Also do you know some sources that I utilize about Aeronautical eng.?
I'd suggest doing two things before you go:

(1) Make sure that your maths is up to scratch; Engineering Mathematics by Stroud is an excellent book to do this with.

(2) Spend a bit of time learning your way around aeroplanes - parts, types, etc - a few days at some good aeroplane museums should do that.

Don't worry unduly about coming up to speed with aero-eng before you arrive - that is after-all what they'll be teaching you.

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I guess we will make a revesion during foundation year. But aLso we will see the courses that I wrote.Rarely I found web sites about these courses trying to get some foreknowledge. Is it just theoretic or we will do some lab works during foundation? and I aLso wonder that if we'll be free to use flight simulator.
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Orate bruv, doing same course! What date do you start? Where are you from?
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hi m8.=) its 25th of september. I m from cyprus. aRe we goin to same school?
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Yes we are going to the same uni, but u mentioned that you are doing a foundation year. If that is the case then i won't be in the same lectures as i am not studying a foundation year. Catch you around anyway!
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Anyway I'm so Lucky. By Chance I found this forum and ask questions which confused me then I met someone who is going to same university with me. I should do foundation year it will be good for me. Have you ever done something for Aeronautical engineering?

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I finished an Avionics degree last year (half aeronautical and half EEE). We did Engineering Maths 1st,2nd and 3rd year. I used a booked called "Engineering Mathematics" by Croft (3rd edition), published by Prentice Hall and it was highly beneficial. You'll find that your lecturers will use references to a book so it's best to see what they recommend before splashing out the £40-£60 before the course....

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Thnx for your advice. I heard this book. I think it is the best seller in amazon maths books. I think I dont need it for foundation year but I'll buy it for 1st year. It'll be good to have lecturers book :P
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Thumbs up BSc Aero Eng at Salford.

Hi, I wish you the best of luck because Salford has excellent connections with the Royal Aeronautical Society (RAeS) - plus an excellent employment rate for the Pure AeroEng course. Stick to that.

All the staff are approachable and friendly: May I at this point credit Dr Y Noguchi for the RAeS contact, and Dr T Rahulan. What Dr Rahulan does not know about Aviation, aircraft and getting through a tough course (he is a taskmaster, but it will be worth it!) is not worth worrying about. With any luck you may get one of these Gentlemen as your Tutor. Give my best to Salford Uni, oh, and by the way if you meet "Dr Jones," just tell him that Barney says Hi, and the second thing, ask Dr Rahulan about the "N E Rowe Award" because he helped me in that. Best Regards.
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http://www.workshopmanuals.co.uk/wor...tion/index.htm

please go through the above website--it would be useful
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Anyway I'm so Lucky. By Chance I found this forum and ask questions which confused me then I met someone who is going to same university with me. I should do foundation year it will be good for me. Have you ever done something for Aeronautical engineering?
Clearly if you want to do an engineering degree and don't have the right qualifications / grades to enter directly, a FOE (Foundations of Engineering) 1-year course is a good route to bridge that gap.

But, if you do have the qualifications to enter directly, then I'd recommend going straight in - the Foundation year is really only for those who can't manage a direct entry.

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haha dont worry Roman I'll say :P

This site has some usefull things it will be good. thank you

I applied for foundation because It will help for my maths and physics.aLso they want a levels for 1st year since we dont do a level here ı have no choice. But we ll see different courses from other engineering courses.Related with 1st year courses so I have nothing to loose =)

Thnx for your interests
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