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Hello everyone at large, I am a layed-off MD-80/DC-9 pilot now selling aircrafts parts here in Seattle, Washington. We Specialize in ATA Chapter 57 and 27 components for Boeing and Douglas aircraft. Our focus is on Flap Tracks, Flap Carriages, Gearboxes, Flap Transmissions, Slat/Flap Actuators, Engine Mounts, Rudder Actuators and other material. Components are overhauled and repaired to the latest OEM specifications and are available on outright or exchange basis. I am basically looking for advice on how to get intouch with airline purchasing departments and buyers and would graciously appreciate any help out there. kindly reply to my post or PM me.
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In case you are wondering what AWN 19 is:
The Problem Of Bogus Parts
1 The CAA is becoming increasingly concerned about the quantity and variety of unapproved parts which are finding their way on to UK registered aircraft, in particular helicopters. Evidence indicates that these counterfeit and/ or fraudulently identified parts are being imported, largely from North America, however the CAA also has evidence of such bogus parts originating from the UK and also other foreign sources.
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The Problem Of Bogus Parts
1 The CAA is becoming increasingly concerned about the quantity and variety of unapproved parts which are finding their way on to UK registered aircraft, in particular helicopters. Evidence indicates that these counterfeit and/ or fraudulently identified parts are being imported, largely from North America, however the CAA also has evidence of such bogus parts originating from the UK and also other foreign sources.
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see here
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Layed off pilot now aircraft parts
Eeeeek
I am glad I didn't become a pilot if they turn em into aircraft bits when they finish flying.
Still at least you know that us engineers will put you back in the air one way or another!!
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Eeeeek
I am glad I didn't become a pilot if they turn em into aircraft bits when they finish flying.
Still at least you know that us engineers will put you back in the air one way or another!!
Talk Wrench
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I'm very shocked.....
I'm very shocked that people sell bogus parts thus endangering lives...we don't have that problem here in the USA but I don't doubt it's happened. If I were to do it all over again I wouldn't become a pilot but again one cannot predict what the future would hold. I enjoyed my flying years and look forward to future flying jobs, but as for now I have to put food on the table. Thanks for all the replies, the artical was enlightening and I look forward to reading more!
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Originally Posted by yohan722
I'm very shocked that people sell bogus parts thus endangering lives...we don't have that problem here in the USA but I don't doubt it's happened.
however how do you determine a bogus part-if the paperwork trail is not correct then its bogus-even though it may be a legal part.
If you don't look-you won't find
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"I have read many reports that AA stock of a/c parts are probably as high as 60% bogus parts"
What a load of ****e! The Automobile Association may have a problem like that, but I can assure you that if American Airlines had an inventory of parts like that, then the FAA would be revoking their operators certificate.
What a load of ****e! The Automobile Association may have a problem like that, but I can assure you that if American Airlines had an inventory of parts like that, then the FAA would be revoking their operators certificate.
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'Laid off pilot now selling aircraft parts' - thats nothing. I know an aircraft parts salesman who has just moved into solar panel sales. That is after ### years in the industry. (wonder why he did that? too many bogus parts and couldn't sleep at night maybe?)
Actually, yohan722, for a moment of seriousness, if you really don't appreciate the scale of the 'bogus part' problem, you will have your own reasons. It would not be proper for me to comment why without knowing you. What you can do is have a look at the FAA website, the UK CAA website etc and find the publicly accessable documented matter that deals with Suspect Unapproved Parts. It really is a multi-million dollar industry in the good ole US of A.
I am hopeful that with you having been at the 'driving end' of the business, you will have far higher scruples than some, and that you will research your company's practices very closely. I am sure that they are bone fida in all respects. But, check anyway for your own piece of mind. You never know what you may unearth.
Actually, yohan722, for a moment of seriousness, if you really don't appreciate the scale of the 'bogus part' problem, you will have your own reasons. It would not be proper for me to comment why without knowing you. What you can do is have a look at the FAA website, the UK CAA website etc and find the publicly accessable documented matter that deals with Suspect Unapproved Parts. It really is a multi-million dollar industry in the good ole US of A.
I am hopeful that with you having been at the 'driving end' of the business, you will have far higher scruples than some, and that you will research your company's practices very closely. I am sure that they are bone fida in all respects. But, check anyway for your own piece of mind. You never know what you may unearth.
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I hope your right (about the automobile association),but the problem is out there and its huge.
However whatever the level of bogus parts there are in the US inventory the FAA or for that matter any aviation authority will never be able to control it fully as there is to much money to be made.
the engineer at the end of the line has to make the judgment based on what ?????
paperwork sometimes copied several times/shipped several times around the world before use and engineers/mechanics etc under pressure to not cause delays.
I hope your right (about the automobile association),but the problem is out there and its huge.
However whatever the level of bogus parts there are in the US inventory the FAA or for that matter any aviation authority will never be able to control it fully as there is to much money to be made.
the engineer at the end of the line has to make the judgment based on what ?????
paperwork sometimes copied several times/shipped several times around the world before use and engineers/mechanics etc under pressure to not cause delays.
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About 10 -12 years ago I used to get given parts from stores that were obvious bogus parts. Stuff like spelling errors in the castings, eg: 'hydrulic' instead of 'hydraulic'.
Now days when I contract to smaller companies I install parts that look ok, have the correct paperwork attached and fail straight away on test. Then when an inquiry is made on the failure we find out the inside was never touched or was fitted with non approved parts.
But my company who is a bigger one, still has problems with bogus parts, and yes these parts, for us, seem to come out of FAA approved repair stations.
For those of you who think the bigger legacy airlines don't have bogus parts on their shelves, think again, the problem is bigger than we all think.
Now days when I contract to smaller companies I install parts that look ok, have the correct paperwork attached and fail straight away on test. Then when an inquiry is made on the failure we find out the inside was never touched or was fitted with non approved parts.
But my company who is a bigger one, still has problems with bogus parts, and yes these parts, for us, seem to come out of FAA approved repair stations.
For those of you who think the bigger legacy airlines don't have bogus parts on their shelves, think again, the problem is bigger than we all think.
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This will be more relevant for a US-based individual:
http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/safety/p...TOKEN=76302748
(Sorry, can't seem to hyperlink a word)
http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/safety/p...TOKEN=76302748
(Sorry, can't seem to hyperlink a word)