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Hi everyone.
Would any one be kind enough to give me a simplified route to becoming a B1/B2 licensed maintenance engineer in the UK for a BEng graduate?
I've tried to decifer various websites but the legislation looks insane. We've had numerous problems at Rolls-Royce in our department with new EASA rulings, so I presume the same has happened with aircraft maintenance.
Any light on the situation from some old hands would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Would any one be kind enough to give me a simplified route to becoming a B1/B2 licensed maintenance engineer in the UK for a BEng graduate?
I've tried to decifer various websites but the legislation looks insane. We've had numerous problems at Rolls-Royce in our department with new EASA rulings, so I presume the same has happened with aircraft maintenance.
Any light on the situation from some old hands would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Essentially you need to sit all of the module exams, and then do the required amount of experiance.
For the B1.1 you'd need to do
Module 1 Mathematics
Module 2 Physics
Module 3 Electrical Fundamentals
Module 4 Electronic Fundamentals
Module 5 Digital Techniques/Electronic Instrument Systems
Module 6 Materials & Hardware
Module 7 Maintenance Practices
Module 8 Basic Aerodynamics
Module 9 Human Factors
Module 10 Aviation Legislation
Module 11 Aeroplanes Aerodynamics, Structures & Systems
Module 15 Gas Turbine Engines
Module 17 Propeller
However, as you already have a BEng (you don't state which), you qualify for some exemptions from doing all of the modules as follows:
Applicants with a Mechanical Degree will be credited Module 1 (Mathematics) and Module 2 (Physics).
Applicants with Aeronautical Engineering or Air Transport Engineering Degrees will be credited Module 1 (Mathematics), Module 2 (Physics) and Module 8 (Basic Aerodynamics).
Applicants with Electrical or Electronic Degrees will be credited Module 1 (Mathematics), Module 2 (Physics), Module 3 (Electrical Fundamentals) and Module 4 (Electronic Fundamentals).
Applicants with an Avionic Degree will be credited Module 1 (Mathematics), Module 2
(Physics), Module 3 (Electrical Fundamentals), Module 4 (Electronic Fundamentals) and Module 8 (Basic Aerodynamic).
So thats the Modules thing sorted, you can either Self Study, and book yourself into an exam centre (Gatwick for example) and sit them, or join a college and do them as part of a course.
Once you have all of your exams passed, you need to do the experiance as required before you will be issued with a license.
Usually this is 5years, for those entering the industry, however, as you work for Rolls Royce, I suspect you fit this exemption:
‘Skilled Worker’
A skilled worker is a person who has successfully completed a course of training, acceptable to the Authority, involving the manufacture, repair, overhaul or inspection of mechanical, electrical or electronic equipment. The training would have included the use of tools and measuring devices.
If so, you can reduce that to 3years experiance needed.
If you were to jack Rolls Royce now, and say, get a Mechanic/Tech job somewhere like the BMI hangar at EMA, 3years of working there, would give you plenty of time to sit the exams and sort those, and you'd be in a great position to apply for a license!
Hope that helps mate.
Check this document (where I sourced my info):
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/177/srg_el..._Cert_Tech.pdf
For the B1.1 you'd need to do
Module 1 Mathematics
Module 2 Physics
Module 3 Electrical Fundamentals
Module 4 Electronic Fundamentals
Module 5 Digital Techniques/Electronic Instrument Systems
Module 6 Materials & Hardware
Module 7 Maintenance Practices
Module 8 Basic Aerodynamics
Module 9 Human Factors
Module 10 Aviation Legislation
Module 11 Aeroplanes Aerodynamics, Structures & Systems
Module 15 Gas Turbine Engines
Module 17 Propeller
However, as you already have a BEng (you don't state which), you qualify for some exemptions from doing all of the modules as follows:
Applicants with a Mechanical Degree will be credited Module 1 (Mathematics) and Module 2 (Physics).
Applicants with Aeronautical Engineering or Air Transport Engineering Degrees will be credited Module 1 (Mathematics), Module 2 (Physics) and Module 8 (Basic Aerodynamics).
Applicants with Electrical or Electronic Degrees will be credited Module 1 (Mathematics), Module 2 (Physics), Module 3 (Electrical Fundamentals) and Module 4 (Electronic Fundamentals).
Applicants with an Avionic Degree will be credited Module 1 (Mathematics), Module 2
(Physics), Module 3 (Electrical Fundamentals), Module 4 (Electronic Fundamentals) and Module 8 (Basic Aerodynamic).
So thats the Modules thing sorted, you can either Self Study, and book yourself into an exam centre (Gatwick for example) and sit them, or join a college and do them as part of a course.
Once you have all of your exams passed, you need to do the experiance as required before you will be issued with a license.
Usually this is 5years, for those entering the industry, however, as you work for Rolls Royce, I suspect you fit this exemption:
‘Skilled Worker’
A skilled worker is a person who has successfully completed a course of training, acceptable to the Authority, involving the manufacture, repair, overhaul or inspection of mechanical, electrical or electronic equipment. The training would have included the use of tools and measuring devices.
If so, you can reduce that to 3years experiance needed.
If you were to jack Rolls Royce now, and say, get a Mechanic/Tech job somewhere like the BMI hangar at EMA, 3years of working there, would give you plenty of time to sit the exams and sort those, and you'd be in a great position to apply for a license!
Hope that helps mate.
Check this document (where I sourced my info):
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/177/srg_el..._Cert_Tech.pdf
Skilled Worker’
A skilled worker is a person who has successfully completed a course of training, acceptable to the Authority, involving the manufacture, repair, overhaul or inspection of mechanical, electrical or electronic equipment. The training would have included the use of tools and measuring devices.
A skilled worker is a person who has successfully completed a course of training, acceptable to the Authority, involving the manufacture, repair, overhaul or inspection of mechanical, electrical or electronic equipment. The training would have included the use of tools and measuring devices.
The typical sponsored graduate does two years training around their degree, 6-12 months of it in a workshop learning all these skills - but this is unlikely to be sufficient to be formally recognised as "skilled".
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Im employed by BAAE full-time does that count as a Skilled worker? been there 6 months now, Completed the First Year apprenticeship with DARA, and before that completed a BTEC First Diploma in Manufacture Engineering.
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Originally Posted by GEnxsux
Hi everyone.
Would any one be kind enough to give me a simplified route to becoming a B1/B2 licensed maintenance engineer in the UK for a BEng graduate?
I've tried to decifer various websites but the legislation looks insane. We've had numerous problems at Rolls-Royce in our department with new EASA rulings, so I presume the same has happened with aircraft maintenance.
Any light on the situation from some old hands would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Would any one be kind enough to give me a simplified route to becoming a B1/B2 licensed maintenance engineer in the UK for a BEng graduate?
I've tried to decifer various websites but the legislation looks insane. We've had numerous problems at Rolls-Royce in our department with new EASA rulings, so I presume the same has happened with aircraft maintenance.
Any light on the situation from some old hands would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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GEnxsux,
I have been following your questions in this and you r other thread. I am very curious why you want an AML. As another respondent has said it is no longer an attractive job with long hours, poor conditions, etc. So what is the pull?
I might be interested.
I have been following your questions in this and you r other thread. I am very curious why you want an AML. As another respondent has said it is no longer an attractive job with long hours, poor conditions, etc. So what is the pull?
I might be interested.
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Originally Posted by JamesA
GEnxsux,
I have been following your questions in this and you r other thread. I am very curious why you want an AML. As another respondent has said it is no longer an attractive job with long hours, poor conditions, etc. So what is the pull?
I might be interested.
I have been following your questions in this and you r other thread. I am very curious why you want an AML. As another respondent has said it is no longer an attractive job with long hours, poor conditions, etc. So what is the pull?
I might be interested.
Mainly nightshifts, in the wind, cold, even snow, working on a snag, almost against the clock, trying to get it all fixed before the aircraft has to go flying again in the morning, so it doesn't get delayed!. Awesome fun.Don't know about you guys, but I much prefer this "challenge" than a 9-5 job, where you know what you will be doing for the next 8 hours.....rolling up at work, not knowing quiet whats instore for you tonight!
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Originally Posted by PhilM
You make it sound very bad indeed! Must admit, I may be a little strange (young and enthusiastic?), but I love it Mainly nightshifts, in the wind, cold, even snow, working on a snag, almost against the clock, trying to get it all fixed before the aircraft has to go flying again in the morning, so it doesn't get delayed!. Awesome fun.
Don't know about you guys, but I much prefer this "challenge" than a 9-5 job, where you know what you will be doing for the next 8 hours.....rolling up at work, not knowing quiet whats instore for you tonight!
Mainly nightshifts, in the wind, cold, even snow, working on a snag, almost against the clock, trying to get it all fixed before the aircraft has to go flying again in the morning, so it doesn't get delayed!. Awesome fun.Don't know about you guys, but I much prefer this "challenge" than a 9-5 job, where you know what you will be doing for the next 8 hours.....rolling up at work, not knowing quiet whats instore for you tonight!
I'm not the sort of person who can stay behind a computer for the rest of my working life, it's gonna drive me mental. I've done it for a few years & i'm already sick of it. I've always enjoyed the kind of "shop floor" people & atmosphere as well. There's so many reasons that appeal.
Does anyone think I'm just too old to start to learn??
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If you were to jack Rolls Royce now, and say, get a Mechanic/Tech job somewhere like the BMI hangar at EMA, 3years of working there, would give you plenty of time to sit the exams and sort those, and you'd be in a great position to apply for a license!
You better make it quick as that place will be History in just over a month as another UK Engineering Maintenance Facilities goes down the tubes....
If you were to jack Rolls Royce now, and say, get a Mechanic/Tech job somewhere like the BMI hangar at EMA, 3years of working there, would give you plenty of time to sit the exams and sort those, and you'd be in a great position to apply for a license!
You better make it quick as that place will be History in just over a month as another UK Engineering Maintenance Facilities goes down the tubes....
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Bit of an update if anyone's interested. Sent some prospective CV's & cover letters to :-
Monarch
Virgin
SR Technics
BA
Marshall
No joy from Marshall, BA, SR Technics & Virgin. Awaiting Monarch, I'm not holding my breath!
Anybody know of any hangar/airport practical jobs going? I'm willing to take a pay cut!!!
Monarch
Virgin
SR Technics
BA
Marshall
No joy from Marshall, BA, SR Technics & Virgin. Awaiting Monarch, I'm not holding my breath!
Anybody know of any hangar/airport practical jobs going? I'm willing to take a pay cut!!!
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Jobs!!!
Keep trying no matter what. Try this lot because they are always
short of manpower!
http://www.flybe.com/live/vacancies/...gVacancies.jsp
There are opportunities out there for starters in your position.
BAe146?
short of manpower!
http://www.flybe.com/live/vacancies/...gVacancies.jsp
There are opportunities out there for starters in your position.
BAe146?
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VAA Engineering
Found this today, VAA Engineering have opened up again for LAEs/Techs.
It may prove fruitless BUT apply anyway.
http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/gb...echnicians.jsp
Keep applying and you'll crack it...
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It may prove fruitless BUT apply anyway.
http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/gb...echnicians.jsp
Keep applying and you'll crack it...
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Originally Posted by GEnxsux
Bit of an update if anyone's interested. Sent some prospective CV's & cover letters to :-
Monarch
Virgin
SR Technics
BA
Marshall
No joy from Marshall, BA, SR Technics & Virgin. Awaiting Monarch, I'm not holding my breath!
Anybody know of any hangar/airport practical jobs going? I'm willing to take a pay cut!!!
Monarch
Virgin
SR Technics
BA
Marshall
No joy from Marshall, BA, SR Technics & Virgin. Awaiting Monarch, I'm not holding my breath!
Anybody know of any hangar/airport practical jobs going? I'm willing to take a pay cut!!!
Try contacting ATC Lasham , they give lots of placements to potential LAE's if you can demonstrate some aptitude/commitment. It's not the most glam company in the biz but you will get all the 'hands on' experience you want and meet lots of pickable brains.
